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Qwertie wrote: Maybe if there were large and obvious benefits to Win8 over Win7
Well, Cakewalk, who make an audio sequencer, did extensive tests and found its performance drastically improved over Win7, less kernel calls, improved disk I/O, lower memory requirements, among others. That's why I installed it, and am so far pleased with the result.
I've come to the conclusion that developers are a reactionary bunch who don't like change. I put in from of my mother, a "normal" user, and she was delighted. I suspect it will succeed.
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No individual bit is 'hard', its just jarring to be dumped (or having to switch) to classic to complete a task.
Wallpapers, windows chrome is all different, which I could live with it was apps, but its not...its a lot of the settings too. They've done the real basic stuff in Metro but that's it.
Same as Vista, half the control panel was still ancient 3.11 dialog box style.
Basically it shouldn't ship with a user *needing* to use classic to use Microsoft components. So Word/Paint/Calc all that stuff should be Metro-ized.
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... it's been designed by the same team they use at Fisher Price.
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I really hope it turns out to be awesome. The idea of Apple owning most mobile interfaces is slightly sickening.
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Exactly !
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I'm running W8 on a tablet and on a non-touch laptop I use at home. There was a bit at the start for both my wife (not very technical) and I had to learn new ways of doing things like shutting down apps, getting back to the start screen, switching between apps and getting to the address bar in IE. After that we both find it easy to use. She is mostly surfing the web, I'm both surfing the web and doing some development.
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I have just played with Windows 8 a little, but from my perspective it is not very intuitive for people used to Windows 7. For instance, I had to search on the Internet how to restart the machine. However, once this initial learning effort is over, I think it becomes fairly easy to use.
In general, the experience reminds me of Office 2007 and the Ribbon - if you keep your mind open it will go from the initial to
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You are probably right.
Many people have a problem with change in general.
On the other hand, not all change is really an improvement. But you gotta at least give it a chance instead of simply not accepting it.
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for the response of "I have not used Windows 8 yet". It would be interesting to have that broken down to
1) I still use Windows 7.
2) I still use Windows Vista.
3) I still use Windows XP.
4) I still use Windows 2000.
5) I still use Windows NT.
6) I still use Windows Me.
7) I still use Windows 98.
8) I still use Windows 95.
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You won't get anyone to respond that they still use Windows ME - they can't keep it running long enough to vote.
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Why stop at Win95?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm old. I can't remember that far back.
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Quote: I'm old. In that case, with a little help I am sure you could go way back. My boss's boss still has a DOS 6.2 book on her bookshelf. Might still need it someday.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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ryanb31 wrote: My boss's boss
so this is your boss's wife
I think that not all the companies have the possibility to swap os systems. I think that win 8 first needs to prove it's value before they are going to swap.
for example we are still on XP and doing a Prove Of Concept(POC) on win 7 so we are still behind
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It can feel strange on a PC. The start menu and apps are designed to take over the entire screen, this is counter intuitive to many of us more advanced users who will have lots of windows open at once. For example, I'd like to look into the apps more, but as they hang around taking up the screen while loading, I tend to dismiss them and then just google everything I need in new tabs. Will be different for everyone I guess.
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Yeah the multi-monitor thing makes it seem odd too - I'd like to actually be able to put the whole start menu on my left screen while working sometimes, but that's not do-able. However, it does not allow you to set the system up so that the taskbar is across all screens and icons are shown only the taskbar of the screen they're on, which is quite nice (just what ultramon does). I wouldn't be surprised if it gets quite a few tweaks over the next few weeks
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As the results already show, it's too early to ask this.
Most (like me) didn't had the chance to try it, at least properly enough to have a decent opinion about it.
Try again in... 6 months maybe?!
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Windows 8 fast and fluid for Normal user or the persons who are using it in windows 8 tablet and for that.
But When i tried it with some sample code in VS 2012, i found it bit difficult to toggle between start page and visual studio (especially while debugging).
In normal desktop mode, i miss standard windows 8 Aero desktop look.Windows 8 looks bit washed out.
May be it will take some time to get used to new start page and layout.
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I will not use till release officially because i don't believe for beta versions will be stable enough , so it's to fast so we can judge on this , you will not find all programs you need supported so you have to wait , but for what i saw on video's it looks great .
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MSDN currently has the RTM build available; AFAIK a time limited copy of the RTM is available from MS elsewhere.
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-- Sarah Hoyt
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I've installed it in a virtual machine and start playing with it.
It works, fast and well for most things I've tried.
It is a little bit strange on some topics (like shutting down the computer).
But probably it is too early to be able to pronounce correctly on that: in my case, I've installed only two or three applications (and I use a lot more than 2 or 3 on my daily basis) so I don't know how the start menu will handle them and if this will be easy or not to use.
Apart of that I find it easy to use and nice looking.
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... was the realisation that the desktop is no longer the root of everything, that's now the Start menu / screen thingy.
After playing around with it, figuring out how to navigate and use it, I'm finding it very easy to use.
Add to that, the enhancements to the task manager, and the improvements to file copying are worth the price of admission alone.
I have no blog...
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fortunately you can still press Win-R for run window, but Win-Tab no longer shows you 3D "stack" of your apps which you can cycle through with the mouse wheel. Instead Win-Tab is for launching some inbuilt metro apps like 'photos'..
yes.. the enhancements you mentioned are hugely welcome.
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CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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