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If it's too early to call you an idiot, just let me know... I can wait until later.
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I think you need to get in the back of the line for that! 
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Lol thanks for your kindness boss. 
I think he's own real boss might be a bit more kinder :P
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Okay so you made the mistake of telling B how much A pays.
However in your favour, B really should not have asked you to disclose how much A was paying and you were probably caught off guard.
The best thing to do now is let your manager deal with the fallout and apologise to your manager.
We all mess up and $800 is not a huge amount.
Treat it as a a lesson, don't beat yourself up over it and stand up straight and take what comes to you - it will make you a stronger person.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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It's customer A's fault - they should have told you not to discuss anything with customer B. Since they didn't and you're not telepathic...
It's not your responsibility to manage the relationship between the two customers.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: It's customer A's fault
Incorrect, if it is not his job (sales) then he should never discuss price. It is a lesson every tech sales support person learns. Being in a small startup there is probably not a delineation of roles  .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I would disagree with you - without the experience or instructions, how would he know what to discuss or not? And I still feel that Customer A needs to make clear up front what they can and can't talk about to Customer B, especially when the chap in the middle is told it's a joint venture. It's not his responsibility to figure all that out.
Having said that, you're right that he should not discuss price - always send that discussion up the line.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: without the experience or instructions
And there is the problem! The guy is in a sh*tty situation it is not a wonder there was a mistake made. We all make them even at the latter stages of our careers (guilty).
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: We all make them
Yup, and I make some doozies (according to my wife )
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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I guess it's B's mistake to have unprofessionally asked about the details.
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Tell A the real price is $200, but they were told it was $1000 and given the "80% discount" to make them feel better.
cat's already among the pigeons, time for a feast.
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R1911 wrote: Just after a day, Customer-A dials and warns me not to disclose the discount details.
He says it's a disgrace for their brand to pay such a low amount for the product/service,
Really? Unless he's reselling it to B in some manner, for more than he's paying, he's childishly immature. If this is local to you, maybe it's a cultural thing.
I mean really, if B was interested in your product because he likes what A has gotten from you, your problem is with A being an asswipe.*
* increase the price he is paying so he can brag about it to his business associates!
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Hi All,
<<rant mode="">> Time sheets, when I started we had one. On one project I had to fill in and different one, now as we are chaining over to a different system I have to fill in a third and possible a forth one... I did ask is there a time code for filling these things in.<> 
Why change a system that worked for one that might after a few tweaks...
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Yes in our company are the same genious ppl at work...
4 sheets here.
welcome to the club
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But, I'm guessing you have the same thing of doing the work or the time sheet. My attitude is do the job then fill in the time sheet, stuff gets done. If I go for the time sheet first it takes me an age to get the Project Mangler to authorise me... 
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9:00 - 10:00 Tried to make sense from time-sheet
10:00 - 11:00 Discussed flawed time-sheet with manager
11:00 - 12:30 Presented decent, workable alternatives
13:00 - 14:00 Started work on time-sheet 2.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Ooh if only it were that easy...
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glennPattonWork wrote: Time sheets
This is the only thing I'm happy about bringing this magical "Agile" process at work.
Now we got rid of this time-sheet thing. But fake-agile process sucks, equally. You just need to do the right thing that fits in your teams dynamics.
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it's very agile where I work, but we still have to fill out a time sheet so the bean counters know how much to bill our various customers. (And for T&M contracts they want a daily 'what did you do?' sentence so that if asked we don't have to try and reconstruct what we did a month ago from git logs, etc.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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The War on Drugs - Under The Pressure[^]
So I was watching the new season of Bojack Horseman last week, awesome show, and then this track came on (last episode, last minute or so).
It sounded good right away, so I pulled out my Shazam and it revealed its secrets.
I never heard of the band and I don't really like their other songs, but this one is just great.
It reminds me of... I don't know, 80's or 90's rock songs?
For some reason I just HAD to listen to The Cult after listening to this one.
Anyway, it's been pretty much on repeat this week, so it's the well deserved SOTW 
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