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You seems to think this is new, but it is not. I quit PHP facebook group 2 years ago (after having 2 years of patience).
When I said "PHP" to experienced programmers, they all frowned as some child language and main reason was the language didn't have classes.  However after clarification they thought about PHP 4.x (5.x is now obsolute and has perfectly implemented single-inheritance classes).
But when I read "PHP" in that group we have people copied some poorly written example HTML form and asking how they can use "PHP" to upload a file. Answers were even more tragic. Messing up HTML and PHP without understanding of underlying HTTP protocol and its limitation. And there were 10+ posts per week like that.
I think too many people heard combination of "programmers gets high wages" and "programming can be learn with just computer and internet", but they missed the hear about "spending 5+ years of your life learning and coding without profit".
To make the things worse a lot of private academy prepare inexperienced people to practical works, which is generally to install libraries and combine library calls, which very often does not work, requires debugging and leave a lot of work to the senior developer.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Thoughts anyone?
The more incompetents in this field the easier it to stand out and get a job for those of us who are competent. Doesn't bother me one bit. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I think Pressure to Perform might have something to do with it.
And maybe the new math? 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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I wanted to answer this, but I couldn't find a suitable quip in CP to copy.
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Have you tried here[^] 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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OriginalGriff wrote: Thoughts anyone?
I wonder why glue doesn't stick to the inside of the bottle???
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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The question is are they completely wrong?
When was the last time you had to code a GUI at the point/pixel level, create (from scratch) a database, or do any one of the thousands of things that are nowadays coded and ready to go?
Sure, kids don't know how to PEEK and POKE, but even we don't have to do that, any more. And more and more specialised knowledge is being handled by pre-written code, which, although it can be bulky, wasteful of resources, and slow, compared to bespoke code, it works.
Good programming will likely never something that a layman can pick up quickly, but even with the background tech we have now, code doesn't have to be Good; it only has to work.
If that means importing fifty (resource-hungry, but who cares? Resources are increasing faster than the bloat can keep up) frameworks and jus filling out config files, rather than writing a thousand lines of code, then that's the process.
So I'd say they're not wrong; they're just "otherwise experienced" in how programming works.
That said, it still pisses me off royally; but you've gotta face the future for what it will be, not what you want it to be.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's not the low level stuff that worries me - think of a car: how many modern drivers know what advance / retard is needed for? Why cam profiles aren't symmetrical? They don't need to know, because the car designer does and modern cars do "all that stuff" automatically.
But what I'm talking about is "trained drivers", with "full licences", who don't understand why a wheel stolen from a tractor won't replace their punctured tire! Or why they can't just fill the tank with urine and expect to get good gas mileage... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Granted, but we're already at the place where "tractor" and "low-profile" are just attributes of a "Tyre" object, so we can't blame newcomers for thinking the differences are *hard*, because they should be -- because We want them to be -- ready for our use as much as the "geat unwashed" want them to be.
And if an Engine object can't accept urine as its Fuel object, then you just import a framework where that works.
It's evolution in its purest sense; and I agree that it's as annoying as all get out, but it's how things were made by us to be easier for us, and it will continue down the road that we decided to build.
So I'm happy with it at the same time as being pissed off by it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Movie Quote Of The Day
I did have a fish once, but then he kept looking at me with these eyes, like, 'feed me!' So I flushed him.
Which movie?
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Snowwhite and the Fisherman
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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Flushing Nemo? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Marillion - The True Story
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Free willy IX
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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My first one using Windows 10 - easey peasey for a Monday early I know.
Your mission is followed by a positive one maybe - I ask you ? (8).
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Finally an easy one... 
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Only if you know the answer  are you suggesting my previous easey peaseys weren't ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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pkfox wrote: are you suggesting my previous easey peaseys weren't ?
That's a valid Question. Whenever someone says , its easy peasy, it tends to be challenging..
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Are you going to post the solution ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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I guess he already did
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I haven't said it's correct though
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Is that a question to me?
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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Being cryptic with the answer as well, I see.
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Mission = Quest
Positive one = Ion
I ask you? = Question
cheers,
Super
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