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Mark_Wallace wrote: I joke with people, in an appropriate place where people can take a joke -- the CP Lounge, in case it doesn't twig.
Ummm, let me guess. Right on this thread your joke was calling me ignorant while you demonstrated profound ignorance yourself over and over. Not a very funny joke, but I get it now.
Mark_Wallace wrote: You were not joking. You were persistently rude and unashamedly insulting. There is no appropriate place for that kind of behaviour.
Well grasped, I wasn't joking. I was pointing out how it's silly to call chess stupid because your parents were forcing you to play it. I do not believe that was as rude or insulting as you're portraying it.
Mark_Wallace wrote: If you can't tell the difference, I very much doubt that you will ever have (or keep) many friends.
Oh, my friends are all doing just fine. You might want to look one post below to know what people think about *you* in general.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Or jobs, for that matter.
Worry not, I've never had any problems on that front.
Makes me curious though, what would be your logic behind these little 'predictions' of yours. Or did you say you don't games involving logical thinking? Yes, you did.
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Hey, kiddo, you're just an ignorant a***hole who thinks you're better than me because you're so stupid that you still play chess, but I'd bet you EUR 5,000 that I'd beat you at it (this is not a joke; the money is sitting here, waiting).
My disdain for chess comes because it's too F***cking easy but is treated like it's special, not because I'm an idiot like you who has trouble winning at it.
Here's a tip: Learn to speak with people with a little respect, even when you're taking the piss, and your life won't be half as "complicated" as it is now.
Oh, and TL/DR, by the way.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Hey, kiddo, you're just an ignorant a***hole who thinks
Kiddo? Unless you're visually impaired, that doesn't make much sense. You've resorted to verbiage of personal attacks pretty quickly which shows your true colours so you don't have to hide behind the pretense of being a harmless guy joking with others in the lounge any longer.
Mark_Wallace wrote: but I'd bet you EUR 5,000 that I'd beat you at it (this is not a joke; the money is sitting here, waiting).
Good thing you clarified it wasn't a joke; I'd bet EUR 5001 that a monkey stoned high on pot will humiliate you at chess.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Here's a tip: Learn to speak with people with a little respect, even when you're taking the piss, and your life won't be half as "complicated" as it is now.
Respect isn't begged for, but earned. Respect is also mutual and doesn't work one way, but I'm not surprised about your ignorance on that one as well, since these things are taught in school and you must have dropped out at grade 3 or so.
You're fantasizing that you're someone respected and important here, but the comments from other members are denoting quite the opposite. It looks like many here regard you as an intolerant troll who can't deal with someone disagreeing with your lowly opinions.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Oh, and TL/DR, by the way
Don't worry, I'm fully aware of your inability to read and comprehend, so I won't push you like your parents did.
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TL;DR
And *PLONK*, btw. Save your insulting, ignorant behaviour for your mother; I won't knowingly read another word you write.
Have fun with matt & ryan, down there at the bottom of the barrel.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: arguing that chess is rubbish because your parents forced you into it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Just ignore Mark. He looks for reasons to have an argument/fight in the Lounge. Speaking of stroking the ego. 
He is very rude and then if you question him he starts to call you rude and attack you. Better to just ignore him. Because he has CP points, people won't consider him a troll, but currently, he is trolling you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You are the only person in the CP Lounge that I speak harshly to.
That had to be earned.
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He does, doesnt he.
He constructed a big argument about whether 'frappe' mean milk shake or not (or somesuch, it was so dull I dont recall the details).
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Munchies_Matt wrote: He does, doesnt he.
His initial response to you was clearly a baiting for a fight. He clearly insulted you. Glad to see you ignored him. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm gonna have to do that one too, but I do occasionally bite it and give some back. Not a productive thing to do though so I completely agree with your suggestion.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: argument about whether 'frappe' mean milk shake or not
You can't be serious. 
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Dont you start! 
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I assume you mean this thread[^], where you were talking about mayonnaise, and I innocently mentioned that I use a frappe machine to make it, to which you said, in high authoritative tone:
1. That frappe is American!!!
But you then changed your mind after googling, and said:
2. That you always knew that frappe was a Greek milk shake!!!
But you then changed your mind after googling, and said:
3. That you have been drinking frappes all your life!!! and that you have always known damned well that they are made from coffee and crushed ice!!!
Etc. All the while being as annoying as all get out.
Serves me right for trying to talk nicely to you.
You, ryandev, and the insulting, ignorant new member of your kaffeeklatsch (no, that's neither American nor Greek) are just made for each other.
And frappes are still French, just like they always have been.
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Still going on about it?
You really are that sad arent you?
So, a 'café frappé' is what I often drink in summer, OK? Its nice and cool. Got that, finally?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Still going on about it?
You really are that sad arent you?
And this, boys and girls, is how a troll talks when he knows that he was wrong, but can't ever, ever, ever admit it.
You three go away and play together. I've had enough of trying to be nice to you.
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Right, so now I not only dont know what cafe frappe is but I am a troll too.
You really dont know when to stop do you?
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Keep talking.
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That sounds just about right. 
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Ahhh, that explains your attitude.
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Partly, but I didn't like the game even before it was thrust on me -- I was only forced to play because I kept beating people at it (including my schoolteachers).
"Quick! Tell the cavalry to take one pace forward and two to the side!"
"OMG! The king is in mortal danger of being killed stabbily by a turret! Get the queen and a bishop to defend him!"
It's just a plain and silly game, but it's put across as if it's a refined passe-temps for mature, intelligent people.
It could be fun, if it weren't for all the snootiness involved.
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"Profesasional" chess is. Matches between amateurs? They are simply the biggest unorthodoxy fairy you'll ever see, and they can be fun. Also Magic The Gathering games are. Pro battles are downright boring - same tactics mitigated only by the fate that decides the cards you'll pick up, but even that can be tamed to a high degree. Amateur matches? It's like lightweight boxe with respect to heavyweights: battles fought until the very end with gritted teeth and freely running blood.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I learnt to play chess at a young age but never fell in love with it. I am a competent if somewhat dull player. However, I do agree that the longer I have been programming the more I see the world through very different eyes than those of my younger self. Perhaps a function of age, I'm not sure. I certainly feel smarter than I was then (I know some who would disagree  )
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My quick reflexive 'thats the right answer' mentality I had with Engineering (as I said, I was in mech-aero) has gone, probably because of the number of times I have shot myself in the foot making such assumptions in software, so at times I feel very slow, but I think its just because I question everything so much more and take a long time to come to a decision.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me.
Or dealing with managers.
But then again, that might be more like poker. 
Marc
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