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dandy72 wrote: I guess my point, if I have one at all to make, is this: Microsoft, get your act together.
They have been working on it, but it's their act, not yours. Nor it's mine.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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nads said this will be the last version of windows...
nobody thought he meant it that way.
RIP: yet another microsoft product.
(OK, not dead yet... they're doing the death by 1000 cuts.)
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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I agree. I've had the same positive experiences with Ubuntu. My main machine is still Win10 however, since I'm so often do dev work and I'm so use windows after all these years.
ubuntu amazingly simple to install and just start using and everything including wifi just starts working properly on all types of old h/w too.
I have had a couple of things that are odd though. I get warnings to update then try too and it doesn't want to update. But overall, it's an amazing system and especially considering it is such a huge open source project.
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I use Fedora Linux quite a bit for various things, and honestly it is quite user friendly. I still use Windows for most things (as NVidia drivers for Linux suck), but Linux is on several other systems I own.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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The only Linux I ever tried was mint...
... and I was very surprised/pleased about:
a.) How easy it was to Setup
b.) How good W32 Software including an interbase SQL Server worked by the help of wine.
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We use Ubuntu at work, among other OSes. I find it less intuitive than Windows, but that may simply be lack of practice with it. (Most of my work is in the Windows environment.)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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And there are a number of flavours of ubuntu, a very ight weight one, called xubuntu or some such, and one thats really like windows I believe. (Been a while since I played with it)
Anyway, yes, it is a good distro and for an engineer very easy to get to grips with. You can for example just switch out the entire kernel for another (you can build a kernel specific to your hardware for example) and back up the entire OS by just copying a directory.
Microisofts reaction with the OS is interesting. It is free, now called IoT (bundled up with the other two OSs, the old mobile and the phone one I seem to recall), and even the old NT version doesnt force you to run the exhaustive tests on your drivers before getting them signed.
I wonder if Microsoft are desperate and are trying to push their OS into places typically dominated by Linux? They are going to have to try a lot harder though, as you say. They really arent winning the race.
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dandy72 wrote: I guess my point, if I have one at all to make, is this: Microsoft, get your act together.
To be fair there are several parts and Microsoft only has control over one of them.
1. Machine
2. Operating system.
3. Your updates to hardware and software.
Prior to this point you were relying on Microsoft to make it effort free. And expecting that thousands or tens of thousands of different platforms would work of which yours is one.
Now it is entirely up to you to both make sure updates occur and that your machine continues to work. Certainly be easier if Microsoft could individually support your machine but not very cost effective. There is probably one or more services in your local area that would charge you for the same service so one can see what the cost actually is.
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You're not telling me anything I don't already know. I've been using Windows for nearly 30 years.
Updates generally work fine on most of my systems. They've also worked great on this one particular machine, in the past. But somewhere along the way, they've dropped the ball, and barely one month into a clean install, patches start failing again on the very first Patch Tuesday this instance of the OS has ever seen. They've done better, on this particular hardware combination, in the past - that's all I'm saying.
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It's a long way to the top.
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He's on a HIGHWAY TO .... 
Farewell.
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Hard Times[^] indeed.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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What a great way to live though.
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JustWatchLittle wrote: but his human groove is hard to reach.
Well said sir!
RIP ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Sir!
RIP
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... as what he painted into the sky.[^] What other type would anyone expect to fly around with one of those planes?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Well, this belongs in the SB
Really? In grade school we used to practice this particular motive on the chalk board.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: he could at least say they were eyes
or headlights. you have so many more options at your disposal with boobies.
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Is the pilot's name Richard, and is he very tall, by any chance?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Then it was something like his family crest? Maybe, but those pilots tend to be the short jockey type. I tried to sit in a Tornado [^] once and felt like a cork in a bottle.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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When I was sat in the pilot's seat of a Concorde I noticed a distinct lack of headroom. Luckily, I didn't have to fly it. They must have used shorter pilots for them. I really miss the Concorde. 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Why are people getting so worked up over an extra tall cowboy hat?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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