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So was Bill Clinton, what?....wait...this isn't the Soapbox? nevermind.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Different answer... I am the youngest of 4 boys, everyone smoked except me!
I hated the second hand smoke.
When I was 13, my 18 y/o brother grabs me and says "You don't smoke now. I am going
into the Navy. If you are smoking when I get out. I will KILL YOU! Don't be stupid,
you have a future!" (then he threw me back into the wall, and left)
Probably the sweetest thing he ever said to me! 
So, I have never smoked. I puffed a couple of times, inhaled ONCE and turned green.
But I used his threat to ward off offers. Pretty soon EVERYONE knew not to offer it to me.
Fast Forward. My other brother died of cancer a few years ago. My mom, a heavy smoker, died last year yesterday, and my father has cancer in his lungs and will probably die of it in the next 18-24 months. (he gave up smoking 10 years ago, but the damage was done over 50 years of smoking)
My other brother gave it up when he had kids, and is thankful he did.
My oldest brother still smokes. He lives at home with dad still, and can't afford much.
He wishes someone warned him to not start! Oh, he doesn't want to give it up because he is
afraid he will get fat like the rest of us.
I realize that a full 4 of 6 of us will die from cancer (almost double the 30% average).
I find it a stinky habit. My brothers say I am WORSE than an ex-smoker. LOL.
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Kirk 10389821 wrote: "You don't smoke now. I am going
into the Navy. If you are smoking when I get out. I will KILL YOU! Don't be stupid,
you have a future!"
Kirk 10389821 wrote: He wishes someone warned him to not start!
Honestly, I expected this to be the norm, but from the small dataset here on CP, it appears most smokers don't care that they are smoking.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Probably so in many cases. Smoking is like any other habit, good or bad. We do it for pleasure and escape from stress. Many drink coffee for the same reasons. The reason smoking gets so much attention is that it's not self contained. The smoke invades the space of those around the smoker resulting in the attention and makes the smoker an easy target for others.
Smoking does cause cancer, fact. Smoking causes emphysema, fact, but if health reasons are the concern, consider this. Many other things we take into our bodies cause cancer. Bottled water contains a leach-ate from the plastic bottles (bromine), which is a carcinogen. Pesticides are found in our food and drinking water. Pollutants in the air from engine exhaust and the electromagnetic energy (microwaves) from our cell phones enter our bodies everyday. The Zika virus is now big news and local governments in the States have begun spraying pesticides in our neighborhoods to kill the mosquitoes. More and more people are treated for all types of cancer and other diseases related to these types of conditions.
With that said, I will stick to my earlier post and just say, I enjoy it and have no plans to quit anytime soon.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
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I never regretted starting smoking, I always enjoyed it, and it wasnt expensive (I smoked hand rolled).
What I did was get bored with it, the constant monkey on the back urging you to have another, it was a big relief to get rid of that.
Now I smoke on occasion, say someones wedding, or a party, and I will happily smoke a packet because it goes so well with alcohol, and then not smoke for months.
That way its my choice, its me in control.
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Starting smoking was one of the dumbest f***ing things I've ever done, and quitting was one of the smartest.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I was surprised because I expected there to be more responses like yours.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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All i want from it is the bacon. Yes, B A C O N! 
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Oh! For the love of bacon! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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OMG, I am going to lunch now...
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It's not unknown for me to get rather intense in my postings, whether Lounge or Soapbox. It's also rare for people, most of the time, and certainly while arguing, to turn around and say "wait - I see that you're right". But the debates, whether fierce or friendly, are the start of transmitting information. Some logical, some emotional, and in the analysis, all relevant in understanding (if not agreeing) with the opposition.
Following the debates, keyboards sweaty with exertion, I'd find it well to to go off with the opposition for some beers - and say "good game", but better beer.
It's a philosophy - no doubt embraced by many at CP.
Just venting, sort of, as the political season both at home and abroad gets unusually oppositional, that if we survive this round, we're here for the long haul.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: It's also rare for people, most of the time, and certainly while arguing, to turn around and say "wait - I see that you're right".
I've found that people don't go there because they themselves need acknowledgement first. I've found that saying "I think you have a point, tell me more about how you came to that conclusion" opens them to be receptive to a more productive discussion of the pros and cons, and even formalizing the guidance for when to do something one way, and when to do something another way. If you can move the conversation so that the person no longer feels defensive, a lot of cool things can happen.
Advice I need to remember myself time and time again!
Marc
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When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
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As the political arena in the United States starts to ramp up, I have made a conscious effort to ramp down the "debating" - which really is wasted time and effort in almost all scenarios. I'm not going to make you see life the way I do, and visa versa, so what is the point really.
I originally joined this site for the tech support, not the soapbox or lounge support, and I need to just get back to that mentality, for myself.
-- Cheers.
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Obligatory XKCD[^] (Todays, by coincidence)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I wish I had said that!
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If you're going to link to an XKCD comic, you should either link to the comic[^], or use the hotlink[^] from the comic.
Whoever owns the blog you've just linked to seems to be violating the XKCD image license[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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His image came up first in google image search so I used it; who am I to question google?
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Wait - I see that you're wrong!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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megaadam wrote:
... such stuff as dreams are made on
I have a quote for that (to update your current to represent reality?):
"Smut - the stuff that dreams are made of !"
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W∴ Balboos wrote: "Smut - the stuff that the best dreams are made of !"
It's the editor in me; I can't stop until the text is perfect.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There's nowt wrong with having the occasional barney; it's a good way of de-stressing, if you're having a sh1tty day at work.
Taking what you say in a message board seriously, though, that's just daft -- although I do know people who used to save all their postings to newsgroups, for...
... Erm, I have no idea for what, actually. I'm willing to bet that even they never read them again -- being that egocentric would take a lot more training than I'd be willing to go through.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I've read many of your posts and found a familiar tone to them. I couldn't place it until now, but I know who you are. Your Data from Star Trek TNG with your emotion chip turned on aren't you. 
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
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