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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people...
And NOONE uses any form of tablet.
It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc..
Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those sh*ts!
Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable.
Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all.
The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games.
Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG.
Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment.
Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
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I'd tell you how I use mine, but then I think I would have to worry about a stalker.
Seriously, there are ways to work around not using a tablet. I'm expirementing with one at the moment. I like the compact size and support for e-books of assorted sizes. And I like the fact that my 10.1" is more than adequate to play a movie in glorious hdmi.
From a work perspective, I can see your annoyance.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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ii_noname_ii wrote: Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment.
Not really.
Tablets are used a lot in industries as a replacement for laptops (most of the time they are used for simple data entry) and paper documents (no need to have binders after binders of documentations.
They are becoming standard in plane for pilots; they are starting to be used in agriculture, they are used in medical environments, ...
You don't see much of that because those are using "professional grade" software, not a cheap $3.99 app.
iPad in Business[^], there might be the equivalent for other tablets (asus, samsung, microsoft).
Nihil obstat
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I have a friend that works at Jeppesen making one of the maps for airplanes.
I can't tell you how surprised I was when he told me about it, but for them it was a nobrainer. Not having to bother about the hardware is worth a lot for them.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
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Sorry Microsoft, your ship may be sunk. GET THE LEAD OUT!
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Quote: they are starting to be used in agriculture
When I worked in agricultural software back in the early 80's we already had things like "DataLog" - hand held data capture unit for use in the dairy - I can see how a tablet would be the natural progression ... but only if it's robust enough to handle the ...erm ... "stuff" that tends to get splashed around
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ii_noname_ii wrote: A failed experiment. I wouldn’t call this [^] a failed experiment.
There a number of people in our office who do use tablets productively, and not just to play games. As a matter of fact I’ve created an application so our product can connect to a tablet or smartphone to via Bluetooth and the really cool part is the devices allows the users of our product to spend less time in the hospital.
I can be maddening though when you are in a meeting and all eye's are on the smartphones or tablets in front of the participants.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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ii_noname_ii wrote: I'm reaching rage levels
I have nothing to do with that
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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I've only had mine since Christmas, so it's early days. But...
I use it for book reading (technical in PDF and fiction in mobi/epub) and it is very useful - much lighter than the equivelent paper and at 7 inch, it fits in a pocket.
I keep my calender, shopping list(s), contacts and music on it - which I used to keep on my phone, but this is a lot easier to read.
I use it for browsing tinternet - much better than the phone.
I use it for email - much better than the phone.
I make notes, I can get documents from my NAS (or any other source).
I can even watch movies / TV and play games on it. (It runs Doom!)
It's early days, but I suspect that it is going to surplant a lot of bits and bobs I used to carry about - which makes my work easier, and my life.
Admittedly, it's not an iPad - it's a Nexus 7 - but that's because I didn't want the over-hyped, over-advertised, over-blogged, apple "product".
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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Android devices are actual ok as it's easy to add files you need - pdf etc.
iPads on the other hand are an absolutely waste of space in an office, so locked down that the only use for them is as expensive coffee mat!
The iPad would have been a great bit of kit if it wasn't for the lack of a decent operating system and its lock down by Apple.
Have a Samsung pad and that is useful as an office tool, the iPad is there as we need it for testing HML5 apps and that's about it otherwise it would have been junked months ago!
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I found my 10" android tablet awesome for reading comics and e-books.
I also use it for reading news on the internet in the morning during breakfast,
control if there is traffic before going out with car,
see the weather forecast in the early morning before going for a hike in the mountains,
play simple strategic games while I'm at the toilet (Star Traders, chess ...),
skype to a friend who resides in another country while I am on the balcony.
Once they spoke of I/O devices.
Tablets have (in my opinion) powerful Output capabilities, since they can show you everything as a monitor AND they are very portable (more than notebooks: I wouldn't use a notebook while in bed with my head on the pillow, or on the small kitchen table during breakfast); on the other hand, their Input capabilities are mediocre, since the touchscreen is useful for simple tasks, but is nothing compared to the combined power of the two towers ... sorry, I meant the combined power of keypoard and mouse.
So: good to get info, bad to put data.
This means that, if you want to use it at work, from my point of view, the tablet is useful to those people who look a graph, read a note, do many meetings and speak much (i.e. Managers, commercial employees) and is not useful at all to people who do really work, as programmers, back office, data input, project managers, etc).
BTW ... a device with big output and small input capabilities didn't kick other devices out of the market: it opened instead a new market segment, thus increasing so much the revenues of those who sold it. IF it would have been a super device which was powerful both in Input and Output, then, probably, it would have kicked out out of the market desktops, notebooks, netbooks, and the like: that would have been unwise for the profits of Apple, Acer, Samsung, etc...
Of course, that is my opinion: feel free to criticize.
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Tablets are very well suited for jobs that do not involve creating much contents but are primarily consuming information. In my opinion tablets are great for reading books (pdf or whatever), browsing the net, watching a movie, looking at some fancy manager dashboard stuff... etc... you can imagine plenty of professional use cases for such patterns.
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The owner and COO where I work will not be caught without theirs. They use it for up to date reports on the processes in the plant . Go to a sales meeting in any office and they have their tablet with fresh data on it to yell at salespeople, etc...A number of our traveling salespeople use them out in the field for the same reasons. Fresh up to date inventory at a click of a button.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder
Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
You can't scare me, I have children.
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depends on the task. I wouldn't do anything heavy like programming or photo editing with it,but in my kids' school eg they use it for attendance records. it's good to get/store documents from the cloud and sales people could have their sales application on it. For presenting catalogs or information it is also useful.
I can imagine a bunch of other stuff, but you're right that it is not for the normal average office use.
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Yes actually, I own an iPad, and a Nexus 7.
I've written an Android application which connects to a WCF Server and pulls data from our system.
A small learning curve using Eclipse and Android SDK + Java but nothing too major.
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I use the calendar on mine, and I have installed several apps for things like document editing, drawing, weather, the cloud, etc. I also have Angry Birds (all of them), as well as Amazing Alex and Bad Piggies. I also have Python on there, along with Codea and a syntax highlighting text editor called Textastic. I do have a few other apps, mostly just for extending things. I have a graphing calculator there as well.
I also browse CodeProject on it as well. Just don't like the 'keyboard' on that thing, and I am thinking of getting an external one for it.
Bob Dole The internet is a great way to get on the net.
2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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I can see why you're getting upset. However, I would like to say that there is a niche for these tablets to become useful in a work environment.
My buddy has told me on numerous occasions that when he has to run an inventory in a no-network zone he first writes everything down on a piece of paper. Then when he returns to his cubicle he writes down again everything in an excel spreadsheet and then upload it. He has made a mention of this to his supervisor and they are in the works of making a phone app for this and as soon as he is in wireless range all the info will be uploaded without him worrying about it. In his stressful environment this is much needed.
On the other hand in my work environment having a tablet is not practical at all. If you have one its most likely for entertainment purposes only.
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I used to have pretty much the same opinion but have recently started looking at some areas of our work (servicing aircraft engines) where they make a lot of sense.
We need to reference electronic manuals, send emails, take photographs, use our ERP system for updating component records, all whilst clambering around / under a 3-ton mess of cables, pipes and very expensive metalwork. A tablet or pad easily wins over a laptop in this instance, it's just sad that they are perceived as executive tools, to be used by executive errrr, let's just say executives.
Andy B
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Great for reading e-mail and using stuff like skype.
Awesome for reading comics and PDFs.
Most used for playing games and streaming video, either from various real computers around the house, or from Internet TV servers.
At work? Useless, compared to the computer on my desk.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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ii_noname_ii wrote: The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games.
There you go! Expand into the silly games market!
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We use them at CodeProject every day, all day. In fact all night and all weekend too. They have become absolutely indispensable to us.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Well put them down and get some real work done
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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My kingdom for the ability to vote a 5
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Maybe I should have excluded geeks from the original topic.
Real work, by non nerds.
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Chris Maunder wrote: We use them at CodeProject every day, all day. In fact all night and all weekend
too. They have become absolutely indispensable to us.
What exactly do you use it for? Check work mail? Remote into an actual machine and do dev? I can't see any real use for an iPad at work.
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