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You think BA is going to admit this publicly? Same sort of thing happened to Delta, United, American... hmmmm. Chipotle just admitted they lost ALL of their transactions stored on their servers - accounts, pins, etc.
If I were a retailer, it's not worth the risk to retain this information. As for BA, it will come out.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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With all the complaints and whining about Microsoft and Windows that we see here on CP, let us not forget what Microsoft provides totally free of charge:
1. Home users and hobbyists can get a totally free copy of Visual Studio 2017, arguably the world's premier IDE for developers. Seven years ago you could get a free copy of VS 2010 Express, that had limited functionality, but the free Community Edition of 2017 has full functionality.
2. For twelve months anyone could get a free upgrade for all operating systems after Vista to Windows 10. If you did not upgrade you did so at your own peril. More than 90% of machines that were affected by the Wanna Cry virus were running Windows 7. No Windows 10 systems were affected. If you did not upgrade, why didn't you?
3. All security patches for Windows are free. Weeks before the Wanna Cry outbreak, Microsoft made available a free patch to plug the vulnerability in Windows 7 that was exploited by the virus. Apparently thousands around the globe failed to install the patch and paid the price. Don't blame Microsoft!
4. I see some contributors refer to Windows as an inferior OS. If that is your opinion, switch to another system! Or do you secretly know that Windows is the best operating system out there?
I have had a few glitches since upgrading our home machines to 10, but in total I am very happy with it and will never go back to 7 or 8.1. I believe this is the opinion of the silent majority and "Microsoft Bashers" are just a noisy minority that doesn't have any real influence at all!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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And btw, I think most of us will fighting with updating a simple app, while MS manages meanwhile very good to upgrade an OS.
Only my quarter of a a half pence 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thank you  If I read it again there where some "ing" too much. Thank you for not mention it
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Cornelius Henning wrote: I believe this is the opinion of the silent majority and "Microsoft Bashers" are just a noisy minority that doesn't have any real influence at all!
And which religion would that belief represent?
MS bashing has been the standard for every hobbyist since the early nineties, because it made them look knowledgable. I'd guess they continued to do so in the professional career.
Cornelius Henning wrote: I see some contributors refer to Windows as an inferior OS. If that is your opinion, switch to another system!
I did! Doesn't mean I won't be touching Windows no more, on the contrary.
Cornelius Henning wrote: Or do you secretly know that Windows is the best operating system out there?
The "best" for whom, under what conditions? If I owned a large company, then Windows would be the only logical choise, regardless of my personal preferences. Though the Commodore Amiga is still the superiour machine, in both hard- and software, I do realize that most bussiness (=mostly MS related) software won't be compatible.
If you want to complain about something MS, then complain about the managers who fail to adhere to the UxGuide.
The reason Windows comes without a manual (contrary to DOS) is that it is intuitive, and has some COMMON CONTROLS. Things that are recognizable as buttons (which means the user knows where to click) and listboxes (which work the same in every app!). Nowadays you have to hover your mouse over the entire screen, looking for hidden buttons and pop-ins/overs/outs.
For most of the complaining people: you'd whish you'd be half a MS. Go look at your stocks and realize you're not.
--edit
A pinot noire with gruyere please
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Sounds strange indeed; it's not tea or coffee. Thanks for the tip, I'll be looking for the church-wine. For religious reasons, obviously 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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I suggest to try it out of any ritual 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: the Commodore Amiga is still the superiour machine, in both hard- and software,
I feel a little sick by this fanboi propaganda, otherwise we could have a real nerd war now.
The Amiga is only so good because it's a true Atari and the software really sucked. The Atari ST's spartan and ugly TOS/GEM combination would have helped a lot. The ST was a true Commodore, after all.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: The Amiga is only so good because it's a true Atari
Ehr, no, even the competitor that Atari launched to rival the Amiga never caught on. You can call it propaganda, but we are talking about a full-color, windowed multitasking environment. In less than half a megabyte.
You're probably downloading more JavaScript than that if you visit this site
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Ehr, yes. Look at this.[^] This man designed the chipsets of the early Atari consoles and 8 bit computers. And look what he later called his own company and what chipset he disigned then.
So I must welcome you to the Atari fanbois after all that time. The real irony is that the Atari ST, which actually was released before the Amiga and caught on a lot better in Europe, was designed and sold by the guys who designed the Commodore 64. Commodore had fired their boss, Jack Tramiel, who simply bought himself Atari and then sold their successor to the C64 under that name.
The Atari fanbois were defending their Commodore, the Commodore fanbois were fighting for their Atari. It can't get any more silly, but deeply religious fanbois (no matter of what, exactly) will never get it.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I don't need to; I lived through that history. The 16 bit Amiga was more popular than the Atari ST.
Then machines that had trouble showing 16 colors took over.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: The 16 bit Amiga was more popular than the Atari ST.
As a game console, yes. Not if you had work to do.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Then machines that had trouble showing 16 colors took over.
That really felt like a huge step back into the stone age.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: As a game console, yes. Not if you had work to do.
Why as a game console? Due to the colorfull windows that it supported? What do you use now?
CDP1802 wrote: That really felt like a huge step back into the stone age.
Yes, mostly because some people would prefer WP5.1 over Kindwords[^].
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Why as a game console? Due to the colorfull windows that it supported? What do you use now?
No, due to the low resolution. The Atari went the opposite way and came with a monochrome monitor, higher resolution and absolutely flicker free. If you had hours of work to do, your eyes would have been grateful for the ST.
And yes, back in the day I sat in the same room with the Amiga guys and passed the processor documentation back and forth. We used to agree that The hardware of the Amiga (plus the ST's monochrome monitor for work) with the Atari's TOS/GEM (plus the Amiga's multitasking) wiuld have been heaven on earth.
In a way you can have that now if you buy a FPGA based computer that can emulate both and then install the current (!) free version of TOS/GEM.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: No, due to the low resolution.
That is the most nonsensical argument this week
Look the GUI up from the leading word-processor of that time
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: of that time
What time are we talking about? 1985, before the first Amiga found its way into a store? Or 1993 after Commodore already was out of business?
I know, I'm mean to you.  The truth is that both companies were unable to come up with an adequate next generation. What they did was too little and too late, so both went the way of the dinosaurs.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: The truth is that both companies were unable to come up with an adequate next generation
You mean something as cheap as a PC clone; not something technical better, but simply cheaper thanks to mass-production.
So yes, the original statement stands
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
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It's not quite that easy. The new Motorola processors had some trouble keeping up with the faster 486 processors and the then upcoming Pentium. The VGA graphics cards were more primitive, but they supported ever higher resolutions, not that they were used very much. And then the new PCs got ever more memory and bigger hard disks.
So yes, at least until the Pentium PCs they were all about brute force, not sophistication.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: It's not quite that easy. The new Motorola processors had some trouble keeping up with the faster 486 processors
It is that easy. By the time the 486 came out the PC already owned the workplace.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Though the Commodore Amiga is still the superiour machine, in both hard- and software...
Have you seen this[^]?
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Yes, too damn expensive for some nostalgia
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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I can just about justify buying a Raspberry Pi kit for "research" (AKA playing around). I hate to think what my wife would do if I bought one of those.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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