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Luiz Monad22-Jul-15 10:28
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Perhaps I have proficiency with programming in general (solid theory) and can take new languages very easy, don't know, I know that I like to study and use many languages.
Yes I have proficiency with C and C++, but I'm using both of them on work for at least 4 years now. C# and F# I used (still use them) for more than 8 years. Dynamic language come and go, but they are easy to grasp in some months.
Perl I don't have a deep understanding of every behavior, but I can write scripts and read if I need, nothing that you can't get in months if you really want to go deeper.
Rust I'm not using on "real jobs", but it's not like C++ or C, I'm gaining proficiency very fast in it.
Yes, all of that takes too much time, I'm just programming for 13 years now, that is half my life (you must count that I don't have any social life, I just study and program and sleep).
C++ is the hardest, 4 years in it and I think I can grasp 60% of it (I maybe wrong, I'll only see more years from now). Is every C++ delusional?
From that those languages excluding the mathematical ones like Coq, Haskell, they are hard and fun, but I don't really do jobs with them, C++ is the most complex and slow to learn.
C++ is a monster to learn, but its a fun game, you never stop discovering "hidden" things, I love/hate it for that complexity.
You are right about guessing the future, that's why I try to spread my knowledge on various languages by doing projects with them, but in the end there's those 5 or 6 languages that must handle to the core to do the job.
I still think you need at least 4 years to get C++, other languages are like 2 years or less. Perhaps every C++ starting programmer is delusional because of that, everyone immense underestimate C++. I think I still do that, even with years doing it.
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