Re: Twenty-one Reasons Why Clients Are Complete Idiots - Work Issues Discussion Boards

Hi,
I am actually working in an internationnal company in VB.NET application
in the position of responsible in development project and small team .
I am Microsoft certified in WinXp and VB.NET

Actually preparing to my next exam to MCAD and the goal of MCSD.
I am well organised and serious.
My work actually in the current company is quite calm and I am looking for small project I can work on during my spare time, this with 2 main objectives

- be able to manage a project through internet
- discover some other area

I do not know if I could help you in your task but who knows
please not that I speak fluently english
experience is made also from others

Thanks to contact me if any interrest at serge.calderara@tiscali.fr

Thanks for help
Regards
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Hi Anyone knows any certifications for VC++. I think microsoft is not conducting VC++ Certification exams. I want to do some certification in C++/VC++/MFC. Just give me some trigger.

Thanks
JP

Before the .NET certifications, the MCSD used to be either VB or C++. I think that all of those exams have expired now tho.

Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

I have been working as a computer programmer for five years. To be specific, I do system analysis, trouble shooting and provide software support.

PJP_PJP wrote:
I think microsoft is not conducting VC++ Certification exams.

And haven't been for many years now. Check their site for the latest information.

"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

All of these reasons describe either experiences I have had or adverts I have seen, sometimes slightly exaggerated for dramatic effect. Also, some of this client behaviour could be construed as being quite reasonable depending on the context.

1. They interview you before getting budget approval, and then tell you afterwards that the budget has not been approved.

2. They set technical tests and get their own answers wrong.

3. They ask you what your weaknesses are. Would Tony Blair tell you what his weaknesses are? He was asked a similar question on the BBC Today programme and answered: “that’s for me to know and you to find out.”

4. They give as a reason for rejecting you after interview that you do not have adequate experience in skill X when you admitted prior to interview that you didn’t.

5. They give as a reason for rejecting you after interview that you do not have adequate experience in skill X when it wasn’t asked for in the first place.

6. You are a contractor and you have a gap of a few months on your CV and it’s known that the IT market is in a downturn. They ask what you’ve been doing? Trying to find work of course!

7. They hold interviews when they know that the job will be filled internally.

8. Human Resources (aka Human Remains) interview you and ask you lots of stupid questions, none of which have any relevance to whether you can do the job.

9. The job is a contract position and they insist on knowing your career aims for the next 20 years.

10. You have 10 years’ solid IT industry experience, yet they insist on your having a 1st class honours degree from a top 10 university and 3 A’s at A-Level before they’ll even look at you.

11. You have 10 years’ solid IT industry experience, yet they insist on your having a 1st class honours degree from Oxford, Cambridge or Imperial. So those who graduated from Harvard magna cum laude need not apply then?

12. They ask you to give them an idea on how to proceed with the problem that is forcing them to look for a contractor in the first place. In other words, they want free consultancy as part of the interview. But once they’ve got the consultancy they hire someone else.

13. They advertise a job that specifies that the candidate must have at least 3 years’, but no more than 10 years’, experience in C++. In other words, those aged over 35 need not apply.

14. They insist that you have 2 years’ commercial experience in a new software technology that has yet to be released.

15. You are rejected because you do not fit the “company culture.” In other words, you are too old.

16. They say you must be able to write bug-free code as a matter of course. So their current software is bug-free then?

17. They get the agency to give you a technical test over the phone. You pass this and they invite you to their offices. They never set eyes on you but they get the agency to set you a written technical test. However, afterwards, you receive no feedback whatsoever, despite numerous attempts at follow-ups.

18. You have an interview on a Tuesday. After the interview they tell you that they have more candidates to see and they won’t be making a decision until Friday. Wrong! They’ve already made a decision – that you won’t be one of the candidates they’ll choose on Friday. If they want you they’ll make you an offer within 24 hours, either later that day or the next morning, regardless of whether they’ve got others to see.

19. They think that if you haven’t got commercial experience in skill X then you can’t do it at all.

20. You have been a professional programmer for 10 years, but you don’t have commercial experience in the latest skill, X. Yet they treat you as though you are a brand new programmer with no commercial experience at all.

21. They ask for a shopping-list of a dozen skills. You are able to land the contract anyway. But after you’ve completed it you’ve only had to use one or two skills on the shopping-list.

Anonymous wrote:
4. They give as a reason for rejecting you after interview that you do not have adequate experience in skill X when you admitted prior to interview that you didn’t.

Perhaps they were hoping that you had more than enough experience in skill Y that would have made up for the deficiencies in skill X.

Anonymous wrote:
6. You are a contractor and you have a gap of a few months on your CV and it’s known that the IT market is in a downturn. They ask what you’ve been doing? Trying to find work of course!

It's not unreasonable to take time off between jobs to take coursework, get certified, etc.

Anonymous wrote:
7. They hold interviews when they know that the job will be filled internally.

This is part of being an EOE.

Anonymous wrote:
10. You have 10 years’ solid IT industry experience, yet they insist on your having a 1st class honours degree from a top 10 university and 3 A’s at A-Level before they’ll even look at you.

Nothing wrong with that. Your industry experience cannot be measured. A diploma and certification(s) can.

Anonymous wrote:
12. They ask you to give them an idea on how to proceed with the problem that is forcing them to look for a contractor in the first place. In other words, they want free consultancy as part of the interview. But once they’ve got the consultancy they hire someone else.

This is quite normal. I've heard plenty of stories about folks getting hired on the spot because one of the engineers in the interview threw a real-life problem out on the table and the candidate fixed it right there.

Anonymous wrote:
14. They insist that you have 2 years’ commercial experience in a new software technology that has yet to be released.

Because they want you to help them get to that point. This was quite the thing to see in the newspapers when .Net first came out. I too was curious as to how folks were to have any experience with such a new technology. It's called learning it on your own.

Anonymous wrote:
15. You are rejected because you do not fit the “company culture.” In other words, you are too old.

A lot of companies like to hire young folks because they can get roughly the same amount of work for less money.

"Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action are priceless." - Unknown

Your answer to point 15 isn't entirely correct - young folks tend to put up with being pushed around and experienced hands know bs when they smell it.

Older folks get laid off and lose their job for the very reason I described. The company saves a ton of money by letting go of the stale, higher-paid veterans and bringing in younger, fresh minds. That's just the cycle of employment and has been around for decades. Getting pushed around and not knowing bs has nothing to do with it. A new college graduate or someone with only a few years experience will not be able to go into a company and demand a higher salary than those that have been in the industry for many years. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.

"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

There is a reason for everything ,
I belive everything is for some good .

I was rejected by a Big company inspite
of a successfull written exam and my friend
was selected eventhough had wrong answers ,
later on i came to know he was shifted to a
new techonlogy which had less scope in market.
He was help less as he left his first job Cool | :cool:

Vikas Amin
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Bombay
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Hi
I am in the UK and am looking to study at home for MCDBA exams.
I am looking for a little help on where to get good training materials for a sensible price and information about exam costs and locations.

A couple of places seem to be offering packages but don't mention exam costs at all.
http://www.certifyittraining.com/mcdba2003.htm[^] is one example of this.

Any useful information would be appreciated!

Many Thanks

Marc

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i am new to .net environment and working in asp.net and vb.net environ.
please tell me about the hierarchy of certifications which one can acquire in .net and plz also give pointers to sites where one can found sample papers on .net certification.

thnx,
neoms21

Hi neoms21

When you pass one exam you will get MCP credential.

Next is MCAD(Microsoft Certified Application Developer) which requires 3 exams.

Then MCSD(Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) which requires 5 exams. ie MCAD + 2 more exams.

A good site is Microsoft's own site

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/default.asp[^]

Charmis

thnx a lot charmis

I do asp.net development in vb.net. Without getting into a religious debate over which language is better can someone give me a real world reason to change to C#?

There isn't any. VB.Net is just as good, if not better. It's easier to read and the intellisense is better. Plus there are still plenty of jobs for vb.net programmers. I just started a new job and I had 2 offers after 4 interviews in the Philadelphia area.

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VB.Net is just as good, if not better.

One word, Generics! Can you use generics in VB.Net?

At this point you can't do it in C# either.

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You can if you're using 2.0, and still won't be able to it in VB any version.

Yes you will.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/vb2005_generics.asp[^]

Kevin

You can only do it in C# 2.0. But you'll also be able to it in VB.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/vb2005_generics.asp[^]

If you want to do generics in .NET 1.1 you only have a single choice - use Eiffel .NET.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/html/pdc_eiffel.asp[^]

Kevin

Both Vb and C# .net are in demand nowadays. It's not the tool itself but your innovation,skills and experience that will count. I used to code in VB6/.Net but due to work requirements I was moved to C# team though our section utilized me in some VB developments.

/Dabuskol.

Hi,
I had a good exposure to C++ during my studies(But surely not an expert). After my studies i got a job in ASP/Vbscript/SQL Server. Because of my family situation i had to accept the offer(My First job). I worked in ASP/VBScript for 5 months.
After that our team slowly migrated to VB.NET and as everybody in our team except me wanted to work with VB.NET, we started developing ASP.NET applications in VB.NET.
I got my second job in ASP.NET/VB.NET.
As i love C++, i was changed to a team developing in ASP.NET/C# with my management's permission. I have been developing using C# for the past 5 months.
Now my doubt is about my future careers. If i look for a new job,will they accept my resume. Surely i will look for a job in C#. I know there is not much difference between Vb.net and C#. But i don't know how the employers will react..
Please advice me, Help would be much appreciated.

Kas_Aspnet