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I hear you brother, peace!
You got a 5...
Don't you also love the code?
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote: I have developed software for all the above OSes and have enjoyed developing for all of them.
Well, I haven't done Mac dev yet (I'd like to), but outside of that, I'm the same way through and through.
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I voted XP since it's the platform in which I've done much of my development so far and being a little more productive in it than in Linux... well, it's my favorite platform at the moment, but I enjoy developing in both of them as well. I haven't used Vista or MacOS as a development platform though.
Best regards,
Lizandro Campbell
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Hey Rama nice to hear from you.
I like them all too! Computers have been a great thing in my life.
I wish my VAX was on the list. Nothnig like a VAX. You measure reboots in years. Super platform.
All my VAX-Alpha VMS applications are still running a very large company today. The users won't let the main corporate company turn them off.
Best to you.
modified 27-Feb-21 21:01pm.
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We going to see your work in the App Store or are you using the hacked toolchain?
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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App Store.
This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE
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Cool. Send us a link (or name) when it goes live please. Interesting to see what people are doing with the iPhone.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Believe it or not, I like both as developer workstations - in particular Windows Server 2008 (64 bit) and CentOS 4.x[^] (also 64 bit).
I like Linux development environment better (vi, bash, perl, cscope), but Windows API is much more powerful and consistent; also some Windows tools are better - Source Insight vs cscope/grep and windbg vs gdb.
I wish I could develop on Mac OSX as well, but there is no way I am going to pay for an Apple machine 
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Wine (http://www.winehq.org/[^]) can significantly help you in that direction right?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: can significantly help you in that direction right?
Not sure which direction you have in mind  I guess it can make SourceInsight work on Linux, but I don't really want to use Linux to develop Windows-specific software.
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I have been working with Qt lately and I am amazed how easy it is to develop the same project in windows and linux. At work I use my 32 bit windows XP desktop and VS 2003 and when I get home I use the same project and develop in Kdevelop under 64 bit gentoo linux. To support sharing projects between the two operating systems I use CMake to generate the project files for each compiler and I hand edit the CMakeLists.txt file which is the file CMake uses to generate project files.
John
modified on Monday, May 5, 2008 10:19 AM
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I just read that KDE 4.x will be running on Windows. I hope they move kdevelop over with it ASAP. I really am hooked on kdevelop when I am working on the dark side. I'd like to use it on windows for consistency.
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I have been waiting to try that as well being that I am just as comfortable using kdevelop as I am with Visual Studio 2003.
John
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QT + kdevelop + valgrind + kcachegrind is my programming heaven! Debugging becomes almost enjoyable!
QT makes portability easy. Work in GNU/Linux bliss and deploy in Windows, Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, GNU/FreeBSD and GNU/OpenBSD with little extra work.
Less portable than Java but much more CPU and memory efficient.
modified on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:23 AM
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On my home PC I use Vista, but at work I use XP...
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Dario Solera wrote: On my home PC I use Vista, but at work I use XP
... but which one is your favorite?
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Vista, in fact I voted Vista.
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You should all try Mac OS X, XCode is just great to develop C/C++/Obj-C/Java, it isn't overwhelming like Visual Studios (I have developed on VS2003-VS2005). The structure is logical. Take that MS!
Don't you also love the code?
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Gave you a 1 for a being a blind fan-boy, Filip. Windows still dominates and Mac OS X doesn't help desktop developers develop Windows apps.
(BTW, I use Mac OS X. But I am a web-developer.)
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Oooh, a 1 
You use a Mac... Be proud about your OS. Don't give it a 1
I have developed a few apps on Windows and a few on Mac, and I still find the Mac much better for developing apps... And the Mac does help desktop developers develop Windows Apps: "Mono-project".
Btw, If you develop your software correctly (I think I do so) you can port it with ease. I do it all the time, by just using a Microkernel pattern. And for stuff like the views/Forms/Controls... just use Java with the help of JNI (or my own JNIFacade framework) and it is viewable on all systems (added in modify: ) even Linux or Beos AND you have full protection over your code because your domain layer and any sublayer is written in C++, so no decompilingtools (such as Mocha) can hit you and expose your code.
Don't you also love the code?
modified on Monday, May 5, 2008 6:18 AM
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Max OSX fan (proud?) .. blabla ... Java -> another 1 from me!
But only because I'm MS fool... So also a big 1 for me, 
and all others thinking that there is the "best" system for everything.
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On all sites the same - Apple vs MS ... 
Why should I argue for one of them? You are very right about MS but Apple is nothing better!
Summary:
You: Give me one reason why MS is so much better then Apple...
Me: No reason because they are both kind of same crap. As a company! I like products from both.
I used countless progamming languages and systems in my life, but they don't solve problems.
We - the developers do! So if you have to develop an Windows-App which language/system/framework... to use?
I have worked on a big CMS once, we used a Database/Microkernel approach - the code itself was an database object(!). The core was written in C/C++/Assembler, we created some programming/scripting/query languages for the system. We allowed the "project-programmers" (they adopted the system for customers) to code in VB/JS/C/C++/Java/.NET and our own languages.
We had 4 Clients - (native) Windows, Linux, Web (containing Java-Applets) and .net Client (we used Mono for Linux).
Nice example for a lot of different problems. We used the systems/languages (i didn't mention all the database-headache systems) that were right for the specific problem to solve.
(Microkernel-performance? ->Assembler, ImageControl for Web-Client? ->Java, QueryLanguage for idiots? -> make your own, Customer hates MS? -> Linux-Client, Designer has no Icon? -> Start up the Mac,...)
So for me, this is programming/developing - solving Problems.
I was saying all this to show you that I am a MS fool because i have to develop windows apps now (of course MS tools and systems are best for that).
I was a Linux fool when i develped apps for this system. I was a Java fool ...
why I never was an Apple fool? No customer or boss ever asked me for it...
You (while following your herd): Every person that gives me a 1 is a person that is a sheep that follows its herd and gets bitten every now and then by the sheepdog to get back in line.
Me (while following my herd): (Remember I gave myself a 1) Why to you think that apple as a company is more proper than any other global player?
Because the products look so hip? Wouldn't they abuse there Power (Right, MS does) if they would rule the dektop market? There is no objective reason for me or you to be in favor of MS or Apple
we are just following the herd, so 1 is good for both of us! All statements saying Company XY is so cool because there product XY is so nice should be honored with a 1)
You don't have much choise as a software-developer, because someone has to build and buy(!) the hardware and the low-level layers for you.
Take what fit's your problem or likings, but don't think any of the involved companies has a higher moral than the other, they all just want to make
as much money as possible.
And don't trust shiny adds selling you some image. (Right, MS is even to dumb for this)
Do we at least agree in this: Most Programmers are smart, freaky (sometimes subversive), and creative people, working with systems from ruthless, greedy and
shifty companies, solving problems for clueless customers?
(Sometimes we - the coders - are the clueless customers of the smart developers sitting in each of the "evil" companies.)
Yes, I also love the code! 
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