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CPU speed is not that important these days Daniel Lohmann7-Oct-02 2:35 Daniel Lohmann 7-Oct-02 2:35  I am pretty happy with my 850 MHz PIII Notebook (which is my main working machine) and my 2 * 650 MHz PIII tower for background tasks (like encoding MP3s ) I personally have the feeling, that speed, speed, speed is no longer the question. All machines with >= 500 MHz are fast enough for most things - if you give them enough memory and a speedy HD. (Okay, for VS.NET and Java it may be helpfull to have 1GHz, but memory and a fast HD is still more imporant than CPU speed.) In the last years my focus moved to other aspects. For example I prefer silent machines over fast ones. That's the reason I work mainly on my notebook even if the tower is faster. It's very silent, the fan runs only if I really stress it and the HD is nearly unhearable. The one and only bottleneck is the HD. 2,5" HDs are significantly slower than desktop HDs. So my personal whish is a speedy, but silent 2,5" HD. -- Daniel Lohmann http://www.losoft.de (Hey, this page is worth looking! You can find some free and handy NT tools there ) Re: CPU speed is not that important these days Poolbeer7-Oct-02 4:04 Poolbeer 7-Oct-02 4:04  But still Megahertzes are good... Greets, Martin If I'm not back in 5 minutes, just wait longer. Re: CPU speed is not that important these days John Fisher7-Oct-02 7:08 John Fisher 7-Oct-02 7:08  Compile time is greatly affected by the CPU speed. If you do a lot of compiling, a faster computer can save a good chunk of time. John Re: CPU speed is not that important these days Daniel Lohmann7-Oct-02 10:02 Daniel Lohmann 7-Oct-02 10:02  You are right here, of course However, the important part of your statement is "fast computer" which is not necessarily the same as "fast CPU". Especially when it comes to compiling, the speed of the HD is also a significant thing. -- Daniel Lohmann http://www.losoft.de (Hey, this page is worth looking! You can find some free and handy NT tools there ) Re: CPU speed is not that important these days Tim Smith7-Oct-02 15:01 Tim Smith 7-Oct-02 15:01  And the amount of memory for file cache. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture Re: CPU speed is not that important these days Liu Guoping8-Oct-02 5:36 Liu Guoping 8-Oct-02 5:36  I always remember my first computer --only 100MHz ---when I began to act as a programer.I told my boss that I can do better if I get a much sharper sword. But he told me a 486 is enough.So I always did one thing:waiting the computer to finish compiling. Now I have a new computer --XP 1600+. I finish my most digital image process work on it. I wander where my first computer is now. Re: CPU speed is not that important these days stupration8-Oct-02 8:34 stupration 8-Oct-02 8:34  it's important for games At work = at home Anders Molin7-Oct-02 0:49 Anders Molin 7-Oct-02 0:49  I have started a small shop where I do some consultant/programming stuff for different compagnies, so I buy my own work computers Currently my primary workstation is a dual AMD 1800+, and my laptop is a P4 1.7Ghz - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" speeeeeed Megan Forbes6-Oct-02 23:22 Megan Forbes 6-Oct-02 23:22  With a P3 1133 I don't feel too lucky/unlucky, but my delight when I was given 512 Ram was hard to hide The following statement about your geekness is true. The previous statement about your geekness is false. A cognoscente opinion. ColinDavies6-Oct-02 22:51 ColinDavies 6-Oct-02 22:51  I think it'd time CP started supplying us with branded boxes. Regardz Colin J Davies Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me. Re: A cognoscente opinion. Navin7-Oct-02 3:40 Navin 7-Oct-02 3:40  That would actually be pretty cool, come to think of it. "Time spent with cats is never wasted." - Colette No option for dual processors? Shog96-Oct-02 19:38 Shog9 6-Oct-02 19:38  Or those cool hyperthreading zeons? Shog9 ------ And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Re: No option for dual processors? Anders Molin7-Oct-02 0:50 Anders Molin 7-Oct-02 0:50  I need that option too - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" Re: Also Dual! (NT) Was:No option for dual processors? jhwurmbach7-Oct-02 1:08 jhwurmbach 7-Oct-02 1:08  NT Re: No option for dual processors? Nitron7-Oct-02 10:46 Nitron 7-Oct-02 10:46  Shog9 wrote: No option for dual processors? must be nice... Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons. Re: No option for dual processors? Shog97-Oct-02 16:45 Shog9 7-Oct-02 16:45  Nitron wrote: must be nice... There are a number of ways i could take that i guess... ? Oh, my god must be nice... ? OMG, not having an option for dual processors must be nice... ? OMG, being able to complain about not having an option for dual processors must be nice... Shog9 ------ And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. 2 words DarrollWalsh7-Oct-02 16:48 DarrollWalsh 7-Oct-02 16:48  Shut UP! If you need an option for dual you need to be shot. Ok so I am extremely jealus. I program from home. I need to get with a fat company with some money to spend. Darroll Not one person lives in the present. Only the past. I can prove it. Re: 2 words Shog97-Oct-02 16:51 Shog9 7-Oct-02 16:51  Darroll wrote: I need to get with a fat company with some money to spend. That's the way to do it I've gotta say, back in the Pentium Pro days, i knew a guy who had a dual machine. Running VMWare in NT, with Linux just three keypresses away. I was sooo envious, but since most of my upgrades were motivated by games i wanted to play, i opted to shell out for better video cards instead. I still don't think i'd buy one for home use; if i was gonna spend the $$$ i'd prolly opt for a bigger monitor instead Shog9 ------ And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. What about 8-way Bruce Duncan7-Oct-02 19:46 Bruce Duncan 7-Oct-02 19:46  I was working on a 8-way P3 733 Xeon 4gb memory. Granted, it wasn't pysically next to me, but I was the only one using it. hmmm, SETI@HOME, 40+ units a day... Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030 I can levitate birds... Re: What about 8-way Shog97-Oct-02 19:50 Shog9 7-Oct-02 19:50  :drool: ! Shog9 ------ And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Re: What about 8-way Megan Forbes8-Oct-02 0:17 Megan Forbes 8-Oct-02 0:17  comments like that should be accompanied by free beer to console us lesser mortals... Dave Goodman on funny error messages: It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you! Re: What about 8-way Bruce Duncan8-Oct-02 8:09 Bruce Duncan 8-Oct-02 8:09  It was only on loan though. Now I need a to to console myself. Was fun while it lasted Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030 I can levitate birds... Re: What about 8-way Gary Wheeler8-Oct-02 4:05 Gary Wheeler 8-Oct-02 4:05  We use an Intel server box with up to 8 Xeons, 4 Gb RAM, as a glorified print buffer. Of course, it's a print buffer for a $2.5M ink jet printing system that prints 1000 feet per minute (roughly 17 feet of paper per second). When we got our first one in the lab, we sacrificed a virgin co-op on it to properly inaugurate it... "Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle Re: What about 8-way Bruce Duncan8-Oct-02 8:14 Bruce Duncan 8-Oct-02 8:14  Gary Wheeler wrote: we sacrificed a virgin co-op on it to properly inaugurate it LOL I'll keep that in mind for when we get new equipment coming in. Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030 I can levitate birds... Slowest to date.... Christian Graus6-Oct-02 18:26 Christian Graus 6-Oct-02 18:26  It's sad, at work I get a 400 MHz machine, at home I have a 550, a 700 and a 2 Gig. Plus two Amigas, at least THEY are slower than my work machine. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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