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Real life is for people who cannot handle Internet.
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I think it's fine if a solution comes to you, but I feel like so many people, including my coworkers can't let go of their work when they leave. I had a professor in college that spent a lot of time trying to explain the importance of meditation and relaxation, especially in regards to the ability to leave work thoughts and stress at work.
It might not help so much with the self employed or entrepreneurial bunch, but for wage earners, the benefit you are providing your employer by thinking all those extra hours outside the office is not going to be reciprocated in benefits to you. They aren't paying rent for space in your mind, so just let it go.
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"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. "
— Hunter S. Thompson
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Working from 7AM to 5AM will make things seem so much more vivid 
Single handedly designing and programming an enterprise suite of applications isn't actually taxing; Its almost like working for no money at all.
Hail Peace!
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"Trade In Your Hours For a Handful of Dimes" - Jim Morrison, Doors, "Five to One"
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Although I too voted 40-60, but I personally think being in average busy score is making me a dull professional.
Low hours of work gives time for personal and professional growth.
Where as high hours can mark me as a hard working professional.
Working for average hours means just following routine work and getting less time for learning.
What do you all say about this ??
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I voted 40-60, too, although I normally try to keep my hours below 45 unless I see good reason to do otherwise.
I have a slightly different take on the consequences of how many hours you work:
* Low hours of work gives time for a personal life. I've managed to fit in a fair amount of personal development while working a 40 hr week, so I don't feel there is a connection from hrs worked to time devoted to study / growth. The # hrs worked does, however, impact the time spent with the family / on the lake / at the gym / painting / etc.
* High hours of work may well mean you're a hard working professional - but what is the real value of being 'hard working?' Here are some possible interpretations of being a 'hard working professional' (please note - 'you' is in the general sense, not you personally!):
> Perhaps it does mean that you are a valuable asset to the company, and deserve a promotion in due course, but...
> Does it, perhaps, indicate that you work in an environment where insufficient planning causes schedule overruns that must be compensated for by overtime?
> Does it, perhaps, mean that you work in an environment where management has little regard for the personal lives of the staff and thinks nothing of expecting them to work 50 or 60 hrs / week, just to make more money for the salary they pay you?
> Does being a 'hard working professional' guarantee that you'll get that promotion?
> Does it mean that you feel you're not as effective as your peers and need to put in the extra time just to produce (what you perceive as) sufficient work?
> Does it, in fact, simply mean that you have a different set of values about personal time and work time than many others? (In fact, that you are the one with the low regard for personal time, rather than management?)
* Working for average hours - I'd say "the conventionally accepted # hours to work in a week" rather than average; around here sometimes it seems that the average is closer to 50 than 40. Working for 'around 40 hours' probably indicates greater interests outside of work than at work, or a perceived lack of value gained from working 'extra' hours. Also, part time work is often unavailable or doesn't offer sufficient income / benefits to be an acceptable option - so 'conventional' hours become the only viable option.
I also don't think I'd connect the # hours I work with the time available for learning. Learning can happen on the company's time and $$, or it can happen on the individual's time and budget. Although, if you feel like you should be spending, say, 5 hrs a week studying, on a regular and consistent basis, then I can see your point (since few employers are likely to have the long term viewpoint that it is in their interests to pay you to study an hour a day).
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I have been programming for a decade now and over the course of the last 10 years at 3 different employers, I probably average 15 hours per week of coding. The rest of the time I spend reading and surfing the web. I've never had a job that actually kept me busy for any extended period of time. Using the RAD tools from Microsoft and Telerik, it just never takes me that long to make the programs / code needed.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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To paraphrase what my old Physics teacher used to say, typing is not a lot of work[^]. Yes, there is a force (pressure from the fingers), and movement (a small perturbation of the keys) and therefore work has been done but its magnitude is small. Similarly with a mouse.
According to current theories of the mind no work is done when thinking.
I did more work in one hour in my garden at the weekend than I did all month at my job
Graham
Librarians rule, Ook!
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Reminds me of a quote: 'do a job you love, and you'll never have to work a day in your life!'
Depends on your definition of work tho  If you're doing work that is specialized, you don't have to work *hard*  Plus you get satisfaction from doing *important* work too... not just hard work.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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That completely disregards the amount of energy burned by the brain while developing software.
Which for some, still isn't a lot.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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There is a saying in China:Able people should do more work.
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and the disabled / elderly should do what?
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"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. "
— Hunter S. Thompson
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If you include my Gym time, break time, travel time, getting ready for work time, besides work and meetings, surely i cross 80 hours a week
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What about sleeping time? Cos you can't work without a good sleep 
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Do you include the time in the shower, the drive to work, eating dinner when your thinking over that problem that has been bugging you all day long. How many napkins have been filled with scribbles.
Why is it when you are busy everyone whats it yesterday, But when your not no-one has any work for you?
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i'm only in a practical training?that sounds work? although i like to sleep besides my supervisor during office hours. 
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Sleep???
You know that even a healthy 60 years old man has slept for 20 years, hence has waisted lots of his time given to spend here in earth. You anyway be sleeping after you die.. so stay awake as much as you can while living here...
- A random opportunity is like a taller chair, those who sit hang on, those who hang on fall
L.W.C. Nirosh.
Colombo,
Sri Lanka.
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i try to stay awake as could as i can....hahahaa thanx
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Normally we work 37.5 hours each week (7.5 hour days). But in the summer we work an extra 40 minutes each day and get every other Friday off. Then we don't have to use our vacation so much to get a few extra days in the sun during the summer. Anyone else have a program like that?
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I work four 9-hr days every week, then leave by noon every Friday.
To be fair, within reasonable limits, I can make my own hours.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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My first 'real' job was a bit like that. We started at 8:30am daily, but finished at 5, 5:15, 5:15, 5, 4pm M-F for a total of 37 hrs a week. Our department had a Time Off In Lieu (of overtime pay) so that we worked an extra 1/2 hour M-Thu and finished work at noon, Friday.
And - we got to watch Concorde taking off from the private runway, now and again!
Sadly, I've never had a job like that, since. 
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Kschuler wrote: Normally we work 37.5 hours each week (7.5 hour days). But in the summer we work an extra 40 minutes each day and get every other Friday off.
We work 9 hr a day and just get 2nd and 4th Saturday off.  compare to your schedule the working Saturday is too much for us.
Kschuler wrote: Anyone else have a program like that?
Anyone want to have program like that.
Believe Yourself™
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Ouch. That kind of schedule just doesn't sound healthy.
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We have flexitime, officially we work 35 hours, but most of us do 40 or more because 1) it gets the job done and 2) you get more days off. At busy times we can do upto 50 hours, if we need more we get overtime paid. I did 60 hours a week for 6 months once (overtime and Saturdays) and it nearly killed me.
Working too long is not productive. I find after 8 hours coding I can't see straight and I make too many mistakes.
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