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All "cloud" hysteria is just work of stupid marketoids. Stupid because they spent corporate money for apriori useless idea - "let's collar our sheep". It works for mediocrity, but IT much smarter than marketoids think. They even smarter than typical boss of "cloud paradise".
M$ screams about Vista, pushes Sharepoint, lauds Win7, now these "clouds", but nothing of these works.
People, stop 'em, stop yourself, don't waste your time - there is much more to do in current projects.
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Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Espen Harlinn
Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services
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It just feels too much like another one of those futurist science fiction novels taking us toward a dark autocratic society, only instead of being forced to kneel to the mercy of Big Brother, we are gladly handing him all of our most sacred information and the keys to access it.
There are so many cool ideas that are being done with technology these days, especially if you just look at each idea one at a time and ignoring the other ideas that exist, such as:
- Google recording Geographic Location of Wifi MAC addresses to be able to provide a fallback method for GPS location without GPS hardware.
- Any search engine data-mining and storing your search behaviors to provide better search results to each specific user.
(Damn if my mind didn't just go blank, let's move passed the cool technologies)
All it takes is for a single person in a company like Google that already holds so much of our information, to put all of these things together, turn them awry and we land right in 1984.
Unfortunately, the search engines we choose to use on the Internet already have the power filter the information we have access to and change our perspective of the world.
I will resist the cloud as long as I am able to legally keep a hard-drive at my place of business/house/car/person or where ever makes sense.
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I'm not paranoid, i just think someone is following me... but seriously I tend to agree with a number of things mentioned but am more eager to summerize it a bit. I like to know where my data is. If only for the sake of "having a good feeling about it".
In my experience most developers are control freaks in one way or another and putting stuff in the cloud is giving some of that control away, that makes it feel not so nice. If I were to develop something that does not contain personal information I would welcome the cloud, for the moment I'll not use it to store my passwords.
I'll not resist it but welcome it when it fits my needs, I would resist being pushed to the cloud though.
As for big brother watching me; I'm not really afraid of that at the moment. Considering that they are hardly able to watch themselves and act like a "Organization" I doubt 'they' have time to watch me  .
<resistance is="" futile....="">
Cogito ergo sum
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My point is not so much that they are watching us, but more that we are willingly giving them control our data by putting it in the cloud.
I am not implying anyone in the cloud is doing unethical things with the data.
I am saying, it only takes one entity, to realize what they can do with all of this data, to give them a new way to have more power and more money.
There are so many positive directions the cloud could take technology, just be aware of the potential risks so we can intelligently judge if the use of the cloud starts taking a turn towards the negative before its too late.
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Now that is something I can agree with; handle with care.
Cogito ergo sum
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Data Protection.
Data Protection.
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I'm just going to say it a lot.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Data Protection.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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So you're just concerned about keeping your data0 safe?
0 'Data' AKA 'Pron'
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: So you're just concerned about keeping your data0 safe?
No need to worry about that. It's well and truly encrusted encrypted!
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I have my companies system in the cloud.
Order Processing
Sales
Purchasing
Stock
Warehousing
So far so good.
Then the Local Utilities pull up outside the company offices and start digging up the road and bang! go right the the main telecommunications cable.
What use is the cloud now? The whole company grinds to a complete halt.
There are too many points of failure to put your companies crown jewels into the cloud.
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This has nothing to do with the cloud, if they cut the comms and power your stuffed no matter where your data is! I think it has to be data security that is going to be the major issue.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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The cloud is very much a concern in the areas of privacy and security. And just like Diebold voting machines in a Republican district, they can be very insecure and easily hacked. Just take the example of Amazon.com
I do believe that security and privacy concerns are slowing and hindering cloud adoption
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
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(Well, it is coming to panto season)
Our issue is customer data security. I suspect we'd be in breach of law if we surrendered the data to a 3rd party's care.
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U. S. federal regulations require that we keep a very tight rein on who has access to our data. If we do not have complete control of the data, we can be held liable for any breaches. What little we provide to our field reps, we (meaning I) provide through our web site, using SSL and a server physically located behind a locked door next to my office.
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You have definitely been listening to Rihanna too much... 
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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It took me a bit longer than I'd like to admit to get that reference.
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Seriously, how is "Money" not one (or two or three) of the options?
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I was thinking on money entering the wallet, but you are right, less money exiting is also more money in the wallet. 
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it is a foggy concept, but then how would one make best use of all those mobile devices, personal assistants, everything-but-the-kitchen-sink gadgets you can even use to make the odd phone call?
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What used to be called a client server app is now called a "cloud" app
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Well, sort of... not exactly... but it does amaze me how many people don't want to use the "server-client" model anymore when it's all around.
Which brings me to my next point, I hate buzzwords...
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Hear, hear!
Espen Harlinn
Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services
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