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TCP_JM wrote: My goal is always to set a 'start date' to every task even to tasks that 'are only nice to to but not necessary' = someday tasks.
I set indicative start dates for my 'need to do' and higher. I don't for my nice to dos. I do this partly so I don't get tempted to do a nice to because it is more fun than the important task at hand (its amazing how I can rationalise this at the time!). A coping strategy for my procrastination and avoidance of deadlines. I review everything quarterly, so they don't get lost.
TCP_JM wrote: I have to use a system that's driven by 'start dates' and 'due dates'
As do I. I use start date & due date (urgency), and priority (importance) to sort my life. Would be a luxury not to have to. 
TCP_JM wrote: I am very interested, too. Thanks for the reference.
This may also clarify where I was coming from in a previous discussion we had regarding the calendar and scheduling tasks for the day/week.
zajchap
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zajchapp wrote: I set indicative start dates for my 'need to do' and higher.
I do that too.
zajchapp wrote: I don't for my nice to dos. I do this partly so I don't get tempted to do a nice to because it is more fun than the important task at hand (its amazing how I can rationalise this at the time!).
 Good point.
zajchapp wrote: As do I. I use start date & due date (urgency), and priority (importance) to sort my life.
Short description and hits the nail on the head.
Very good and productive discussion/conversation.
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TCP_JM wrote: Short description and hits the nail on the head.
Thanks. The other attributes are really just there to refine the sorting / filtering.
The other thing I wanted to add is that I find there is still some subjectivity about combining the urgent and important information into 'what is the best use of my time right now' at any given time. I have yet to find a system that takes all the subjectivity out. Not sure it is even possible. Or is that just me holding on to some notion of still having some free will...
Hope the discussion didn't drift too far from the original issue. But interesting indeed.
zajchap
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zajchapp wrote: The other attributes are really just there to refine the sorting / filtering.
Especially 'category' and 'status'.
zajchapp wrote: I find there is still some subjectivity about combining the urgent and important information into 'what is the best use of my time right now' at any given time. I have yet to find a system that takes all the subjectivity out. Not sure it is even possible. Or is that just me holding on to some notion of still having some free will...
 A solution for this "dilemma" would be squaring the circle. On the other hand: Rules and objectivity are important but it shouldn't lead to self-abandonment.
Have you ever seen the "workflow" in some asian factories? Employess are sometimes forced to move like robots. I'm not talking about a necessary steps to do a task or a necessary sequential arrangement, I'm talking about rules for every move of the arms, hands, legs, feet. Doesn't reduce mistakes, is mind-numbing work, kills creativity and is last but not least pathogenic.
Let's hold on tight to some subjectivity which leads to creativity and flexibility amongst others.
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TCP_JM wrote: Especially 'category' and 'status'.
and flags and tags...
Actually, I am intending to use the custom attributes to set up one more 'key' attribute to the important/urgent mix: task size (e.g. small, medium & big). I know that time estimate can do this, but ideally for me this would be a visual thing, like different sized dots, but we will see what we can do.
I hope this will help balance the work I do (e.g. so I don't focus too much on smaller tasks, not getting to the bigger ones - or vice-versa).
TCP_JM wrote: Let's hold on tight to some subjectivity which leads to creativity and flexibility
Absolutely!
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zajchapp wrote: and flags and tags...
I very much like to know how are you using them and for what purpose? I'm a little reluctant/cautios at present using them.
I'm already using 'priority' (a little), category and status and one of my computers is a netbook (1024x600).
So
a) I can not use every possible column (otherwise I cannot see the task title anymore). I have to choose wisely 
b) I'm not sure if another column with tags and flags will improve my workflow or hinder it by forcing me to fill in too many fields, forcing me to use too many different filters or by presenting too many infos regarding one task.
I've seen task mangement software where you can sit half an hour in front of the 'new task window' putting in details. I like to keep it as simple as possible and make it only as complicated as necessary.
zajchapp wrote: ideally for me this would be a visual thing
Dan wrote that he is open to add the 'data type' ICON (look here[^], please). If he does that you could create a custom column and put icons with e.g. "bullets" in different colours and sizes in there to support you visually.
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TCP_JM wrote: I very much like to know how are you using them and for what purpose?
This won't be for everyone, but...
I fill in the category, but don't really use it (I have separate tasklists for work, home etc...). I use status rarely, but do fill in % done for some of the larger tasks.
I currently use tags for special filters, such as for exporting to GanttProject. This is a communication thing - I don't want a Gantt with all the detail for discussion with others. I want it to only show down to some level of parent task - a bit more detailed than project phases, but sometimes not much. So those tasks get the tag associated with them, so I can filter before exporting.
I am thinking of doing a similar thing for the calendar when it is a little more mature.
I think I may use flags for this instead in future, although too many flag types may become confusing.
For flags, I use the flag for 'current tasks I need to be working on in the next x days'. I do it this way for several reasons:
- because the start date might be a week ago, the due date is not for another week or so. So how do I get the task up top of the tasklist (since I don't use status - i.e. 'active')? I sort on the flag first.
Also, an active task may be put on hold for a while, so I want it to not be so visible.
This goes back to a discussion we had on how to show a task in the calendar to be worked on today, without constantly shifting either the start or due date. I use the dates as indicative ranges and as a means to define the order they should be done in, rather than try to plan my week in detail. If you have a better method I'd be interested.
- because I really need to get on to this task this week/day and I want it up the top. This is a little redundant, as I already have largely sorted by priority and date but I find it works for me. Clicking on a flag is quicker for me than shifting dates (I generally use the mouse).
- because a flag takes up little room and is visual (unlike status 'do this week')
- because this is where some of the subjectivity comes in...
I was thinking of setting up two flags, one for 'do this week', and one for 'do today', but I may leave that for now.
Perhaps I should add. I review my tasks at the start of each month, looking at what is planned for the month and what is rolling over from the previous month (too much usually!). I adjust the start and due dates into week blocks (unless due date is a deadline of course). I review the tasks formally again at the start of each week, sometimes adjusting dates, but mainly setting the flags. I may adjust dates and flags on a day by day basis as well, dependent on progress. I schedule my days/hours with a hard-copy diary, based on the information in TDL.
I would be interested to hear how you go about managing your dates (and how often you need to adjust them, as I do that a lot). Presumably you have key shortcuts for this task?
TCP_JM wrote: I like to keep it as simple as possible and make it only as complicated as necessary
Believe it or not, so do I. Not because I lack screen real estate, but because I try to keep the visual distraction to a minimum.
TCP_JM wrote: Dan wrote that he is open to add the 'data type' ICON
That is what I'm waiting for...
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zajchapp wrote: I fill in the category, but don't really use it (I have separate tasklists for work, home etc...).
I've only one big list, but I'm not using categories for home, work etc. I differ in regard to this by giving the list a structure like: orga(nisation), Office, Me, Other.
Categories are for: @fin(ance), @tel(efone), @wait(ing for), @mgt(meeting), @rem(inder, follow-ip) etc.
Status is for (e.g.): @asap (if can't give a 'start date' oder 'due date' at present), @del(egated), @rep(etitive task), @ong(oing) etc. To sort the filterd list by category and look for e.g. '@tel' might help to fill some time gaps that do not allow to start a bigger task.
Flags:
I was using flags for flagging a task (and by using the settings in the preferences to flag it's subtasks, too) to filter by 'V) Flagged tasks' before Dan introduced the filter W)selected tasks. Result: A task and it's subtasks got isolated (some sort of a 'zoom-in' function).
zajchapp wrote: For flags, I use the flag for 'current tasks I need to be working on in the next x days'... because the start date might be a week ago, the due date is not for another week or so.
THAT is a good use for flags since there is always the problem how to mark a task that one wants to work on on a specific day in between 'start' and 'due date'. This reminds me of the discussion regarding the calendar, as you mentioned, too ("This goes back to a discussion we had on how to show a task in the calendar to be worked on today, without constantly shifting either the start or due date.").
zajchapp wrote: I use the dates as indicative ranges and as a means to define the order they should be done in, rather than try to plan my week in detail. If you have a better method I'd be interested.
Better? Only different.
Usually I filter my list
* by 'started by today' (you get all the things that started already in the past, too) and 'due by tomorrow'.
I'd really be happy if I could combine these two filter. Since it's not possible it might be that I have to take a better look at the new search feature (>6.5).
* and then some filters regarding future deadlines or 'start dates' to make plans and avoid nasty surprises.
I'm using Autohotkey (AHK) scripts in combination with Hotkeys to switch from one filter to another. Otherwise I'd go mad changing the filter by using the menu 'View'>Filter>Show'. I'm not using the filter bar for obvious reasons (netbook: 1024x600).
BTW: I'm using an AHK script that toggles the visibility of all the 'bars' in ToDoList (Tasklist tab bar, toolbar, etc.) on and off. The result (toolbars off) I call it 'the version for minimalists'.
zajchapp wrote: I review my tasks at the start of each month, looking at what is planned for the month and what is rolling over from the previous month ... I adjust the start and due dates into week blocks (unless due date is a deadline of course). I review the tasks formally again at the start of each week, sometimes adjusting dates, but mainly setting the flags. I may adjust dates and flags on a day by day basis as well, dependent on progress.
In general that doesn't differ much from my way of working. I'm planning the next week at the end of this week. I have a look at future goals, future tasks quite often (since I'm always looking for [near] future tasks I can do right now [e.g. because they fit in the context]. It's not possible to engrave most of the things in stone here: More or less everything is in a constant state of flux (not if deadlines are involved, of course). Even my way of working. I'm reading a lot and I'm always happy to learn about other ways of coping with things and I try them out. At first only theoretically and if I think it can work I try things in small portions pratically. If an idea works for me I adopt it. ('Adopt, Adapt, Improve' and/or 'Improvise, Adapt and Overcome').
zajchapp wrote: I schedule my days/hours with a hard-copy diary, based on the information in TDL.
I'm not sure that I understand: 'hard-copy diary'?
Next question:zajchapp wrote: I would be interested to hear how you go about managing your dates (and how often you need to adjust them, as I do that a lot). Presumably you have key shortcuts for this task?
"key shortcuts for this task"? Sorry, I don't understand that either.
How I go about managing my dates?
Basic principle: Deadlines are to meet (appointments ditto): Refers to work and private life. Refers to deadlines that I get and to those I set.
Where there is a basic principle there are exceptions: If it has been found (objectivly) impossible to meet a deadline - like it or not - that's just the way it is. There are various reasons: people don't deliver important papers, people you need to talk to are on holiday, computer breaks down, it's suddenly absolutely necessary to work on something else ... This is when I have to adjust dates. Happens often, too. As I said: more or less everthing is in in a constant state of flux. Modern times. No resignation on my side involved; just stating the facts.
zajchapp wrote: TCP_JM wrote: I like to keep it as simple as possible and make it only as complicated as necessary
Believe it or not, so do I. Not because I lack screen real estate, but because I try to keep the visual distraction to a minimum.
Yes, exactly.
Last but not least:
What I like to do too is having a look at completed tasks at the end of the week. Good for the ego  and usually I put some more remarks in the comments field of the conpleted tasks that make it easier to understand my own remarks e.g. if have to look at them in a couple of months, years. The "daily grind" (or the large amount of time I'm spending with the message board of ToDoList) forces me too often to put comments in the comments field in some sort of 'telegraphic style'.
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TCP_JM wrote: Categories are for: @fin(ance)...
I kind of do this: Category project X, meeting, HR, etc... But I don't really use it currently. I will use it when/if I start to log time, so I can consolidate time spent in the various categories. I have also started to assign icons for my major projects, but this could be seen as duplication and is really only used for a quick 'recognition' of the what the task relates to without necessarily reading the title.
TCP_JM wrote: THAT is a good use for flags
I find it works well for me. Discussing this with you has prompted me to organise all my requests to Dan over the months, and update my vision of how I ideally want to work with TDL in future. I have been eagerly awaiting V6.5 for some of its features.
Ideally I want to use a custom flag for 'do this week', and one for 'do today'. I would also like to put a flag (bullet) next to the due date column to indicate 'deadline', once columns can be shifted around.
The major flaw I see with this though is sorting. I would want to sort on 'due today', 'due this week', 'start date', 'priority' - too many parameters!
I would also like to use icons more, as they are visual and don't take up much room. I wonder what Dan will do with this. I am not sure if it is possible, but it would be very useful to be able to create custom lists, populated with icons (or say wingdings text). I would probably stop using tags at that point, and use icons to indicate Gantt, Calendar, etc... My wish for a task size indicator fits in here. If the implementation is a single icon, then several columns would be needed for the tags, and the task size idea won't work.
TCP_JM wrote: I'd really be happy if I could combine these two filter. Since it's not possible it might be that I have to take a better look at the new search feature (>6.5).
Do it. At the start of each month I filter on 'tasks due by the end of the month' AND 'tasks due to start by the end of the month'. Brilliant. I pretty much keep this filter on all the time.
I am eagerly waiting for Dan to expand the capability of the relative dates to include 'this month' as well as 'today'. Currently I need to go in and change the fixed date re end of month. But that is OK.
TCP_JM wrote: everything is in a constant state of flux
Same. I rarely finish things on time, so am constantly shifting start and due dates.
TCP_JM wrote: I'm not sure that I understand: 'hard-copy diary'?
 You know, one of those things you write in with a pen. Relates to the discussion we had on scheduling time. I use the diary to block out 10am to 12pm for working on task x. TDL can't do this, but it does provide the tasks I choose from. Outlook could, but I find the diary works best, and I can take it with me. A bit stone-age, I know.
TCP_JM wrote: "key shortcuts for this task"? Sorry, I don't understand that either.
I was trying to make the point that you seem to be a keyboard based user, where I am more mouse based. Can affect what is convenient w.r.t the UI.
TCP_JM wrote: What I like to do too is having a look at completed tasks at the end of the week.
Good on you. I tend to review the diary. I also generate a report at the end of the month, listing all the completed tasks.
Thanks for the discussion by the way. I sometimes wonder why we don't see more 'user stories' here. I find this sort of thing is a great way to pick up ideas for better ways of working - or confirm you aren't way out on a limb.
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zajchapp wrote: TCP_JM wrote: "key shortcuts for this task"? Sorry, I don't understand that either.
I was trying to make the point that you seem to be a keyboard based user, where I am more mouse based. Can affect what is convenient w.r.t the UI.
I'm using both: mouse and keyboard. Depends totally on the situation. I do not want to limit myself. I like to combine methods. When I started years ago working with computers I used mostly Word. The first thing I noticed is that is inconvenient for me to use the mouse, then move the hand to the keyboard to be able to press Return then go back to the mouse etc. I decided immediately to use the mouse with the left hand (without changing the mouse key layout). As a result of this I started using the mouse and the keyboard simultaneously.
Nowadays I have two Return keys (the usual one and the capslock key). Wonderful.
I even experimented with the idea of 'halfkeyboard[^] on a normal keyboard instead of buying one that is only for one hand (left or right). My version is based on AHK and allows me to write with the left hand alone and with the right hand alone (covering all the letter keys of a keyboard, but not all of the 'F1' etc. keys). Tough to learn but could be a real asset while talking to someone over the phone.
zajchapp wrote: TCP_JM wrote: I'm not sure that I understand: 'hard-copy diary'?
You know, one of those things you write in with a pen.
Things like this still exist, yes? 
Joking aside. I started "forcing" myself years ago to put everything in a computer note. I know from experience that I do not have the time to cope with all the little paper notes, 'note-it's etc. I used to clutter years ago my desk with. One place for all my notes and memos, one place to rule them all, one place to bind them ... and that's the computer. There is only one exception: That's when a computer is not available. I use a little ring binder as UCT (ubiquitous capture tool).
zajchapp wrote: TCP_JM wrote: I'd really be happy if I could combine these two filter. Since it's not possible it might be that I have to take a better look at the new search feature (>6.5).
Do it.
You are probably right but I rather have filters than 'search options'.
Not that the result will be very diffrent (I assume), but at present I'm under the impression that it's diffcult to handle the search feature with AHK. I have to dig deeper...
zajchapp wrote: Thanks for the discussion by the way ... I find this sort of thing is a great way to pick up ideas for better ways of working - or confirm you aren't way out on a limb.
Thanks, too. It's a great way, you are right. Let's go on with this and other discussions ...
Maybe you can post a picture someday how your ToDoList looks with all the flags and icons (with blurred task names, of course).
zajchapp wrote: I sometimes wonder why we don't see more 'user stories' here.
I guess one of the reasons is that codeproject was originally "only" for programmers and developers and all the messages by the users refered to coding and technical things and so on. The second reason might be that most of the users are just reporting bugs and asking for features because of this.
Usually software producers have some sort of a 'Forum' where users can discuss about how to use the software and some sort of a 'Support/Request'page. It's - from my point of view - great that this is combined on the ToDoList page at codeproject.
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TCP_JM wrote: I even experimented with the idea of 'halfkeyboard
Excellent. Not for me, but very interesting.
TCP_JM wrote: I use a little ring binder as UCT (ubiquitous capture tool).
The diary covers this function too. I am not a my desk all the time, so a totally computer based solution is not an option. Starting to think about a pad, but to run TDL will need one that runs win8 I guess. Not sure when those are coming out.
TCP_JM wrote: You are probably right but I rather have filters than 'search options'.
Not sure what you mean. The custom search can be saved as a filter. Not sure about AHK, as I don't use it. Have downloaded it though. Must set up a task to investigate it...
TCP_JM wrote: I guess one of the reasons is that codeproject was originally "only" for programmers and developers and all the messages by the users refered to coding and technical things and so on...
You are probably right. It is useful to have this type of discussion though, and I agree this is a very useful forum.
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zajchapp wrote: I am not a my desk all the time, so a totally computer based solution is not an option.
Same here. I wasn't thinking only about the office. Same in private life. Useful thoughts can "occur" everywhere and unexpected, right . Sometimes I hear or read intereting things. The general idea is to capture things like that in fast way. Even if there is a computer at hand: booting my netbook for a fast note is not an option. A pad or a tablet PC is much better since they are "booting" a lt faster, but I wouldn't like to carry that around all the time. Nontheless: I'm waiting for a good tablet PC (better pad) with Windows, too.
Instead of my ring binder I used a PDA for a couple of years (it's allowed to spend it's retirement at home and will be cared for until it passes). I'd love to buy a new one but they are not producing them anymore (smartphone-mania). I'm not much interested in a phone that constantly tries to get in touch with the internet and is cluttered with 'social network' apps and other not-so useful stuff.
zajchapp wrote: TCP_JM wrote: You are probably right but I rather have filters than 'search options'.
Not sure what you mean. The custom search can be saved as a filter.
I will have to dig deeper ...
zajchapp wrote: Not sure about AHK, as I don't use it. Have downloaded it though. Must set up a task to investigate it...
DO IT. Definitely. It's great, even for users who like to use the mouse more than the keyboard, like you do.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not an AHK-Guru but the AHK scripts I'm using are making my life a lot easier and are supporting my work with ToDoList magnificently. You can extend the abilities of a lot of programs and automate so many things (e.g. sending emails that are always meant for the same people with the same 'subject' and the same text and a specific attachment). AHK saves time and treats my nerves with care; nerves that are in danger of being on the edge if I have to do 20 times a day the same 10 clicks (with it's 20 clicks.)
Have a nice W/E.
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TCP_JM wrote: Useful thoughts can "occur" everywhere and unexpected, right...
yup. again, the diary deals with this.
TCP_JM wrote: Instead of my ring binder I used a PDA for a couple of years
I haven't done that, but I agree boot time is a real deal breaker if it is slow. I have friends that use their phones to jot down ideas / send themselves emails etc. I somehow can't seem to warm to that either, although in principle it should work well.
TCP_JM wrote: DO IT. Definitely.
I intend to. I think the first job will be to set up a script to move start and due dates by 1 week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc... Possibly a bad habit though, and bad habits shouldn't really be enabled...
zajchap
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zajchapp wrote: I intend to. I think the first job will be to set up a script to move start and due dates by 1 week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc... Possibly a bad habit though, and bad habits shouldn't really be enabled...
Maybe you can write a script that moves the 'due dates' and the 'start dates' by 1 day, 2 days, 4 days. It might be considered as an improvement then
modified 2-May-12 8:38am.
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Alternatively one could also use TDL >v6.5 and use a custom column, though the beauty of the position column is that it is easy to change positions (and hence the priority).
TCP_JM wrote: Use 'List View'
Unless I am missing something - you can do it in tree view as well?
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capital H wrote: though the beauty of the position column is that it is easy to change positions (and hence the priority).
I suggested the column 'position' because I've put the emphasis on changing priorities 'automatically' when tasks are moved up or down.capital H wrote: Unless I am missing something - you can do it in tree view as well?
You're not missing something. Sorry, my fault. I should've written 'task tree view' since I'm referring to: "if the subtasks are expanded it will be: 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 4" in my message. It was an ID10T error 
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Thanks for the feedback Zajchap.
Just to clarify, I'm not intending on setting 500 priorities to my list, in-fact there'll be a lot of duplicate priority numbers, especially if the priority is low. Level 1's and 2's will have at least a hundred each as they're not very important.
It's just the higher priority items (8's, 9's and 10's at the moment) which I need to be able to have a bit more control over.
Just a quick point on managing large ranges of priorities - there's already a feature in the program which lets you block select and decrement or increment priorities. Shuffling priorities is pretty quick and easy this way.
Will look forward to the next release and see how it goes.
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mrk05s wrote: Just to clarify, I'm not intending on setting 500 priorities to my list, in-fact there'll be a lot of duplicate priority numbers, especially if the priority is low. Level 1's and 2's will have at least a hundred each as they're not very important.
That does clarify (and change) things. Ignore the stuff on having exclusive priorities then.
Perhaps we aren't using TDL so differently after all. I too have numerous tasks in my 'nice to' category - all set at priority 3 (my lowest) and with no associated dates. They get reviewed periodically to see whether they have gone up in priority 'need to do', but they mostly tend to be 'never get around tos'.
It sounds to me as though you just need to re-arrange your priority numbers to get all your priorities within the 1-10 scale. When I said I use priorities 3, 5, 7, 9, I wasn't giving the full story. I sometimes also use priority 10 - probably in the same way you would want to use priority 11 - when a task suddenly jumps all others - a 'do immediately'. This is sometimes easier than changing dates and flags etc.
Can you not adjust your current 8, 9, & 10's to become 7, 8, & 9's? This should be possible unless you have a strict criterion for each of the 10 levels currently, and are unwilling to drop one or combine two together.
zajchap
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And you have clear set of criterion for each level of priority ?
if not, you are missusing the priority for sorting you task list!, in this case, use another field for this
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I have seen this in some other tasklist managers. Priority A1, A2, A3, ...An, B1 to Bn, C1 to Cn. You end up spending your whole day fiddling with your priorities!
Dan, feel like changing the priority from an integer to a decimal? Priority 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc? I am in the fewer priority camp though...
zajchap
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Hello Dan,
I'm using Freeplane (1.2.14 beta) as mindmap tool (wich is a branch of the original freemind tool)
I have noticed a little issue:
* 1/ I have a completed task in Todolist
* 2/ I export to .mm and open the file with freeplane. OK the completed task is with a green check icon, which means completed. Great.
* 3/ I do some minor modification on the map and save the .mm
* 4/ When I import the .mm in todolist (in a new tasklist), the task is not completed, and have a % of 99% ?
(I have verified in the .mm file, the attribute TaskPercentDone = 100%...)
Could you fix the problem during the import in todolist ? The task should be completed.
Kind regards
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Hi Dan,
I have also been playing with this recently (Freeplan v1.1.3).
If you are having a look at this, you may also want to look at the import / export of dates and other attributes. I have been finding things don't behave.
Exporting tasks to .mm (freeplane, aka freemind) seems to work well. All attributes and Comments come over well, and Freeplane adds appropriate icons as it should (done check, note indicator, for instance). NB, only the standard attributes, not the custom ones. NNB: Freeplane doesn't have priority 10 .
Importing the .mm back into TDL doesn't work so well. Only the % done seems to be coming back in properly (I'm not seeing the issue above). As for the rest:
- Priority is reset to default
- Dates come back as 1/1/1970
- All other attributes are blank
- Comments are preserved, but have a few blank lines added to the start.
I have checked the .mm file, and the information seems correct there, so assume the issue is in the importing.
This is more an FYI. This isn't really a major issue for me, as I use the mind map for initial planning, then transfer to TDL for the detailed planning. Still it would be nice if things could be two way if needed.
PS: Same thing happens with Freemind 0.9.0 RC9. Is this the way it has always been?
zajchap
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Can you send me all the files which demonstrate the problem together with the steps to reproduce pls?
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Sure will send some items to you in the next few days.
zajchap
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Files and screenshots sent.
zajchap
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