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22-Feb-03 0:26

Hey there all!

I'm having a problem installing Mandrake 8.2 on a 486. (yeah okay, that's slow Blush | :O

)

It allows me to select language, mouse, do all partitioning, etc, until it gets to the part where you must select packages. It says "Searching for packages..." or the equivalent, then after a while gives this error message:

"An error occurred. <br />
depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files."

Any ideas? This means nothing to me.
Thanks,

Paul Wink | ;)

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markkuk22-Feb-03 1:13

markkuk

22-Feb-03 1:13

Mandrake 8.* and later require at least a Pentium processor. I believe 7.0 is the last Mandrake Linux version compatible with i486.

-- NA --22-Feb-03 1:16

22-Feb-03 1:16

Would that cause that weird error message?

thanks anyway

Paul Wink | ;)

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markkuk22-Feb-03 2:14

markkuk

22-Feb-03 2:14

The installation packages (*.rpm files) have the CPU requirement embedded, so the message could mean that the installer can't find packages suitable for i486 CPU when all packages in distribution are for i586.

-- NA --22-Feb-03 3:00

22-Feb-03 3:00

Hmmm.... good point. You're right anyway though, because i just checked the docs and it says specifically that this ver won't work on i386/i486 Frown | :(

"If all else fails, read the manual"

thanks tho,

Paul Wink | ;)

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modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.

Dana Epp24-Feb-03 14:58

Dana Epp

24-Feb-03 14:58

Paul,

Just what do you need the platform to do? I might be able to recommend some install images if I know what you are expecting from the platform.

ie: Do you need it for mail, web surfing, document processing etc etc?

There are still lots of images that can run on lower processors... but they typically are a little harder to install. Some though (such as Debian) are still up to date and have all the latest and greatest packages. As an example, you can go to the Debian 3 install page[^] and read about how to do it that way. Heck, you can go to this page[^] and learn how to install it for the 68K Macintosh if you want.

Anyways, my point is that you shouldn't get discouraged. Some vendors are still making up to date stuff for older hardware. It's amazing when you see the latest flavours of Linux running on an old 68K Macintosh that was used as a door stopper!

Good luck!

- Dana Cool | :cool:

-- NA --25-Feb-03 23:14

25-Feb-03 23:14

Well, actually I'm looking for a general purpose installation, ie mail, surfing, maybe a server, not really so much doc processing though. I don't really have specific needs because the reason for this machine is just to gain experience on Linux and evaluate feasibility of converting all the Windows boxes to Linux. The problem is that I'm a real Linux noob. Someone recommended Slackware as being compatible with i386/i486, with a small footprint, although I had misgivings about ease of use for a newbie like me, but when I asked he said that advanced general computer knowledge is all that's really required. So I'm having it downloaded (I'm on 56K Blush | :O

) and should get it on Saturday. I will keep y'all posted though Big Grin | :-D

Paul

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-- NA --2-Mar-03 2:56

2-Mar-03 2:56

Great - I got my Slackware disk yesterday, and fired it up this morning. True to what I expected, Slackware is a little more geeky. I did however figure most of it out. Now my only problem is that there is only 600mb available to Slackware (800mb hdd, 200mb swap) and I need to fit it on here. What packages should I install for the claimed minimum of 500mb install space (ie no X)

Paul

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System Message Boxes

R Dawson21-Feb-03 4:39

R Dawson

21-Feb-03 4:39

Does anyone know how to suppress or intercept all message boxes application and system to prevent them from displaying? Also, how to suppress the cursor / caret?

Thanks in advance Smile | :)

office time synch

bryce20-Feb-03 12:33

bryce

20-Feb-03 12:33

Hello

in the office i'm at, they want all PC's to be synch'd at least every hour to an NT box without having to run one of those apps on each of them which get atomic clock time
apparently net time is useful but from what i can see it only works at login time...whereas they have a bunch of workstations 98,xp,2k,nt and a bunch of servers they want to synch

does anyone have any ideas?
bryce

Older version of Linux?

-- NA --17-Feb-03 19:03

Re: Older version of Linux?

17-Feb-03 19:03

Hey there all - i need a suggestion. I have a few 486's [ Blush | :O

] lying around at home that i would like to use as an experiment to learn more about Linux, and get experience etc. but i only have Mandrake 8.2 at home, which i think will be way too heavy for the 486. does anyone know of a 'lighter' distro i can use, or, say, an old version of RedHat?

thanks

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Dana Epp19-Feb-03 9:20

Dana Epp

19-Feb-03 9:20

Well if you have the experience in Linux I would recommend considering Debian[^]. A combination of the latest Debian installed with WindowMaker[^] gives a pretty light desktop, and works great. As part of some Linux advocacy we did recently we installed 10 486 machines in this manner that used a remote X display to push Netscape to the desktop from a high end server to give a school a low cost LAB in the inner city.

However, if you are NOT comfortable with the low downs of Linux, Debian is not your beast. You will end up having a love hate relationship with the dselect/apt and just how lean... or bloated.... you want to install.

You might also consider checking out your local LUG (Linux User Group) and see if maybe you can get some support through them. Chances are they may have some lighter distros you can try.

Good luck. Cool | :cool:

- Dana

Re: Older version of Linux?

-- NA --20-Feb-03 5:15

Re: How can I learn HOOK?

20-Feb-03 5:15

tks for the info - and no, you guessed it, i'm not your regular Linux geek, but would really like to become one Big Grin | :-D

I'll see about finding a LUG...

Paul Wink | ;)

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How can I learn HOOK?

Anonymous17-Feb-03 7:36

Anonymous

17-Feb-03 7:36

Hello,

I want to start learn HOOK, but all the tutoials I see here, is in Visual C++ 6, I prefer to start directly from Visual C++.NET.

Where can I start?

Thank's,
Itay.

Dana Epp19-Feb-03 9:29

Dana Epp

19-Feb-03 9:29

I am not sure exactly what youw ant to know about hooking, so I am assuming you are looking for general info. I apologize if I am wrong in that assumption.

Perhaps a google[^] search would be in order? I did a search of hook +C#"[^] and it returned a lot of discussionary items about it.

Right off the bat it returned an article over at www.c-sharpcorner.com[^] that might fit your needs.

Good luck Cool | :cool:

- Dana

win2k dos prompt auto complete with tab?

bryce16-Feb-03 19:25

bryce

16-Feb-03 19:25

Hi does anyone know which registry setting i need to set to allow the tab key in ms dos to function as an autocomplete key in win2k?
cheers
Bryce

Re: win2k dos prompt auto complete with tab?

Richard Deeming17-Feb-03 4:02

Richard Deeming

17-Feb-03 4:02

Try HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\CompletionChar [DWORD] = 9

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Re: win2k dos prompt auto complete with tab?

Michael Martin24-Feb-03 14:29

Michael Martin

24-Feb-03 14:29

bryce wrote:
Hi
does anyone know which registry setting i need to set to allow the tab key in ms dos to function as an autocomplete key in win2k?

I would start by right-clicking on the Command Prompt icon and selecting Properties. In there you will find the option. If my memory is completely shot, you will instead need to install TweakUI 1.3 from Microsoft to set this up.

If I wasn't sitting in front of an AMD K6-2 200MHz, 48MB RAM, Windows NT 4 Workstation beast I would check this for you and give you the correct answer.

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Partitions?

Mark Sanders13-Feb-03 11:24

Mark Sanders

13-Feb-03 11:24

I just got a new laptop and it came with a 30G hard drive that was partioned into 16G and 14G partions. I talked to a buddy of my in IT and he said that most of the new computers he gets in have partitioned hard drives. Does anybody know why a bunch of computer manufacturers would start partitioning hard drives at the factory? Does it increase performance?

Confused | :confused:

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Ray Cassick13-Feb-03 11:35

Ray Cassick

13-Feb-03 11:35

What OS and what format (FAT32, NTFS, etc...) did you have in the system?

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markkuk13-Feb-03 11:55

markkuk

13-Feb-03 11:55

Hard drives are always partitioned, even when there's only one partition covering the whole drive.

Michael Dunn13-Feb-03 19:08

Michael Dunn

13-Feb-03 19:08

I don't know of a compelling reason to partition it that way. Why not 15G and 15G? Modern filesystems (ie, not FAT16) have no trouble with a 30G partition.

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Roger Wright17-Feb-03 22:04

Roger Wright

17-Feb-03 22:04

Mark Sanders wrote:
Does it increase performance?

No. Older versions of Windows allowed only 256 directories in the root directory, and this practice may be a holdover from those days. NTFS5.0 has no such limitations that I know of. Because so many programs install stuff on the root directory whether you want them to or not, I prefer to reserve the C: logical drive for Windows itself and all the garbage programs that don't allow an optional install point, then to install everything else on a different drive. This causes no performance hit that I've been able to detect, nor does it improve performance in any measurable way. It's just cleaner, and easier to restore if (when) a crash occurs.

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Frank Deo1-Mar-03 10:49

Frank Deo

1-Mar-03 10:49

For most workstations...the simple principal is to install an OS partition and a user partition. OS files stay on one, and user files on the other.

Linux has been doing this for years. Perhaps some pc mfgrs are jumping on the bandwagon.

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