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re: vertical space in new CP design: graphic comparison enclosed BillWoodruff23-Sep-12 22:40 BillWoodruff 23-Sep-12 22:40  This is a link to an 86kb .png file, saved from PhotoShop CS 6, which I hope may contribute to the discussion of "use of vertical space" in the new design of CP[^]. There is an "as is" selection from a screen-shot of this forum (upper left in the .png file), and I have added five other examples that illustrate the effects of perceived vertical-space as you decrease the space between post-titles, and as you decrease the space between lines in one multi-line post-title (i.e., the leading). [1] I personally do think the new design has gone a bit too far in the direction of "vertical spaciousness." But, it is not a "huge honking issue" for me: just one I enjoy commenting on because of my interest in design and typography that evolved naturally in my former work at Adobe on Illustrator, PhotoShop, and Acrobat. I have no delusion that I am "real" graphic-designer (which is not meant to imply I am not highly delusional in many other areas) enjoy, Bill [1] I have tried to simulate, in my examples for comparison, the color and "weight" of CP's font (I'm pretty sure it's the Segoe UI font, probably in semi-bold), but exact simulation is impossible, because of the very interesting multi-color anti-aliasing that which is rendered from native CP text to the screen. Examine a sample of this from a screen shot at 3200% magnification to see what I mean: there's a veritable rainbow of colors being used. I assume it's Windows 7 (I have ClearType activated), and, possibly, the browser (Chrome, in my case) anti-aliasing type like this: it's certainly not CP ! <color>"When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images." Niels Bohr Re: re: vertical space in new CP design: graphic comparison enclosed Chris Maunder26-Sep-12 7:17 Chris Maunder 26-Sep-12 7:17  Something is planned and should be out soon. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP A couple of things... Dalek Dave23-Sep-12 22:34 Dalek Dave 23-Sep-12 22:34  From my initial "Urgh!" things have improved. Thank-you for getting rid of the Light Grey on White. Being a chap of advancing years, and, as a function of those years, decaying eyesight, it was difficult to read! There are a few other things, all minor but annoying in their own way. Firstly, once one has gone down a few pages, and wishing to return to the First Page, it is slightly annoying that we have to navigate to the bottom of the page to do so. Could the "First Page" link at the top be reinstated? Secondly, the colour change indicator of a clicked link would be nice. One sees a thread and reads through, but one cannot see the items one has already clicked on. Even normal HTML defaults to a colour change on clicked items. Thirdly, thread delineation. There is no differentiation between threads. Obviously we do not want hard table lines between them, but some sort of fencing would be nice. The fourth one is a technical issue. I was looking at the site on a Netbook and the screen did not resize to fit, but gave me a scroll bar. Being at work I am unable to give more information, but I will look again tonight and give more details. Generally, though, I see the small adjustments made over the last few days and I can deal with the site much easier. But seriously, who decided Light Grey on White? I bet it was someone with eyes like diamonds! --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Re: A couple of things... Chris Maunder24-Sep-12 10:14 Chris Maunder 24-Sep-12 10:14  Dalek Dave wrote: But seriously, who decided Light Grey on White The designers. They are a gentle and, evidently, extremely well sighted bunch. I agree with many of your suggestions. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: A couple of things... Ravi Bhavnani24-Sep-12 18:26 Ravi Bhavnani 24-Sep-12 18:26  Chris Maunder wrote: They are a gentle and, evidently, extremely well sighted bunch. And how many of these designers are representive of developers, who (I dare say) make up 90% of CP's audience?  Rhetorical question. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate your unflagging efforts and am grateful for CP.  It's materially advanced my career for more than a dozen years.  I try to pay back by answering questions and mentioning CP (loudly) to every vendor (and prospective advertiser) I communicate with. Thanks for reducing the vertical padding in the sections on the home page and addressing the issue of foreground and background colors, at least to some extent.  I continue to ask that the padding in the forums be reduced further so that they're at least closer to what they use to be.  At a site such as CP, information and screen real estate is king.  Large swaths of whitespace reduce the effectiveness of the forums and give the impression that their content is frivolous and sparse, which as we all know, isn't the case. It's my personal goal to get the SO .NET audience to move to CP.  SO's readership already openly touts CP as being the premier source of well-organized source code.  Let's get our forums to look crisper and let's get some of that SO traffic to this coast. Thanks, /ravi My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com Re: A couple of things... Chris Maunder25-Sep-12 4:07 Chris Maunder 25-Sep-12 4:07  Thanks Ravi, and yes, there will be further upgrades to the forums. The designers are extremely responsive. They actually use CodeProject themselves. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: A couple of things... Ravi Bhavnani25-Sep-12 4:19 Ravi Bhavnani 25-Sep-12 4:19  Thanks, CM! /ravi My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com Q&A poster names overlap right-hand zone Andrei Straut23-Sep-12 21:52 Andrei Straut 23-Sep-12 21:52  In View Questions in Q&A, the names and time of posting text overlaps the banners and sections in the right-hand area. I use Chrome 21.0.1180 on Win7 x64 with zoom set to 90% (this also happens on 100% - normal zoom, albeit less). The issue is replicable 11.0.1 and IE9. It's even worse on Chromium 18.0.1025 and Firefox 15.0 under Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64. EDIT: Changed type to bug. Layout type is fixed, screen resolution 1600x900 Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater. modified 24-Sep-12 4:22am. footer in several pages Joan M23-Sep-12 20:04 Joan M 23-Sep-12 20:04  Hello again, It seems that in several pages the footer is not at the bottom of the page, in some cases it is mixed with the right elements, i.e. if I go to review all my questions, in the last page there is only one question in the list, there the footer gets blended with the "Top experts in 24hrs". [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. Re: footer in several pages Chris Maunder23-Sep-12 20:11 Chris Maunder 23-Sep-12 20:11  which browser? cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: footer in several pages Joan M23-Sep-12 20:17 Joan M 23-Sep-12 20:17  Ouch! I'm always missing that part... IE9 win7... [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. Re: footer in several pages Chris Maunder2-Oct-12 10:36 Chris Maunder 2-Oct-12 10:36  Should be good now. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: footer in several pages Joan M2-Oct-12 21:35 Joan M 2-Oct-12 21:35  It is better now, but not completely finished Chris: Now the footer is not being mixed with the right column, as the gray vertical separation line stops the footer to continue going right. Which is good. Anyway, in that page, the footer keeps being at the vertical position in which the "Top experts in 24 hrs" is, cutting half of the advertisement that you have placed on the footer. [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. Code Project Logo Rohith Gopi23-Sep-12 19:55 Rohith Gopi 23-Sep-12 19:55  Hi Users and Admin, Good to see the new layout of code project. It resembles the microsoft websites in a sense. I have a suggesion regarding this. As you have changed the layout of the website why cant you think of changing the "LOGO" also. i have a logo idea in my mind which preserves the existing logo of Code Project. If you are ready to think about changing the logo i can surely help you in doing that. Hope a positive reply. Regards Rohith Gopi P Re: Code Project Logo Chris Maunder23-Sep-12 19:56 Chris Maunder 23-Sep-12 19:56  We did change the logo. If you mean changing our icon, then no. Don't go there. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: Code Project Logo Rohith Gopi23-Sep-12 20:00 Rohith Gopi 23-Sep-12 20:00  Ya i mean changing the icon (small toy like thing). Its ok. It was just a suggestion. Re: Code Project Logo Nagy Vilmos23-Sep-12 23:52 Nagy Vilmos 23-Sep-12 23:52  It cannot change due to a contract written in blood. Bob, for that is he, is of alien extraction and Canadian citizenship. He has made a deal with Chris, as long as his, Bob's not Chris's, picture appears on every page Bob will not arm the Ninja Hamsters who do all the work at Codeproject Central. Last year they nearly got through the electric fences unarmed, imagine what they'd do with Uzis? Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett Re: Code Project Logo Rohith Gopi24-Sep-12 1:49 Rohith Gopi 24-Sep-12 1:49  Uzis.... May be they 'll Kill Smilies questions Brisingr Aerowing23-Sep-12 19:23 Brisingr Aerowing 23-Sep-12 19:23  1. Is there a list somewhere of all supported smilies on this site? 2. Where exactly did you find these smilies? I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking Re: Smilies questions Chris Maunder23-Sep-12 19:39 Chris Maunder 23-Sep-12 19:39  1. No. Some are secret 2. Uwe Keim provided some with the very first version of his ASP forums back in 2000. The rest I made pushing pixels using Fireworks. A couple (eg coffee cup) I came across from somewhere that I've long forgotten. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: Smilies questions Nagy Vilmos23-Sep-12 23:55 Nagy Vilmos 23-Sep-12 23:55  Chris Maunder wrote: Some are secret Which ones? It's not , or ! Though I see :gin: is still not working. Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett Re: Smilies questions Ravi Bhavnani24-Sep-12 18:31 Ravi Bhavnani 24-Sep-12 18:31  And someone who keeps pestering you about whitespace made restyled the joke icon, many years ago.  /ravi My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com Re: Smilies questions Chris Maunder25-Sep-12 4:08 Chris Maunder 25-Sep-12 4:08  Thanks Ravi. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Unable to select drop down menus from Home page. Vinod Viswanath23-Sep-12 16:38 Vinod Viswanath 23-Sep-12 16:38  I am using google chrome, after switching into new code project look,i am unable to select menus from home page. Step1: login Step2: ensure you are in home page Step2: click on user name near to logout label. Step3: try to select the drop down menus. Menu selection is possible form any other screen. Thanks!!! Re: Unable to select drop down menus from Home page. Chris Maunder23-Sep-12 17:07 Chris Maunder 23-Sep-12 17:07  Should be better now. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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