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Fair enough.
Nihil obstat
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Given the recent influx of spam, should all new user accounts be moderated until they've posted at least three non-spam messages? It might not stop them posting their crap, but it would mean that nobody would click on the links, and Google wouldn't index them.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Three messages with "asdfikjhasfkln" somewhere and blocking gone.
It is very annoying, but I see it not so easy to protect it without affecting legitim new members.
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Nelek wrote: Three messages with "asdfikjhasfkln" somewhere and blocking gone.
A message of "asdfikjhasfkln" would be marked as spam, so it wouldn't count as a non-spam message.
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- Homer
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I know, but... What if there are not so many people online / paying attention to report the first messages? without some kind of time limitation it is possible to bypass that number of messages.
And even though, they can create a bunch of accounts, write harmless answers to deal with the blockade and afterwards use them.
It can make it a bit more difficult for them, but not impossible. As I said, the only way to deal with that is affecting legitime new members.
If your solution was implemented and I was a new member needing to ask something with a link to an image to clarify something... how would I be able to do it?
It is annoying yes, but we can already deal with the spam, reporting, deleting the links or the posts and so on.
Don't make millions of potential new normal users pay for the stupidity of some spammers.
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modified 21-Dec-12 11:14am.
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Nelek wrote: What if there are not so many people to report the first messages?
I was thinking more along the lines of reversing it - the message needs to be approved by an appropriate member before it appears to everyone else. After three messages get approved, the members is no longer moderated and can post messages as normal. If any of the first three messages are spam, the account gets deleted.
Yes, it would be annoying for new members to have to wait for their message to be approved, but it's a solution that's used by many other sites without any major problems.
Nelek wrote: And even though, they can create a bunch of accounts, write harmless answers to deal with the blockade and afterwards use them.
It can make it a bit more difficult for them, but not impossible.
It's not about making it impossible to post spam; it's about making it harder to post spam. If they have to update their bots to post three legitimate messages first and wait for those messages to be approved before they start bombarding the site with crap, they'll probably move on to other, easier targets instead.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Ahm, ok.
The way you explained it at the beggining was not so clear (or at least I didn't understand you point)
This is already working in CP but only with the articles. The only problem I see is the overload of work for members that can "approve" accounts and the possiblity of some messages going to the Limbo.
But you are right, that would make it much harder to use bots.
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Given the number of new accounts created to ask questions, I don't see it as being practical to put that many items into a moderation queue. The queue serves a different purpose for articles so it makes more sense there. If this were implemented, it would just drive traffic to other sites.
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Are you going to include the position of the ranking in your Curriculum Vitae or something similar?
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No I am not, Site Bugs / Suggestions is for telling about bugs on website and thats what I am doing. Could I know Nelek Why this Whos Who page is for???
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Sorry, I didn't want to upset you. It is just that last weeks have been A LOT of question related to the reputation points as it was the most important thing in the world.
You have done it right reporting, that is the purpose of this forum. I guess CP staff will have a look on it, but I don't think it is something landing on the upper part of open bugs. It is not something so important or affecting the good function of the site.
About the Who is Who page, for me it is just a kind of report of the users on CP, where you can see the open information of each profile and the reputation. Just the same as if you click in someone's name but all at once and with the possibility of ordering the list according to some options. But at the end I think it is just that, a report-list, not a ranking.
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Its nothing like being upset, I am not as well. anyways thanks.
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Can we have a undo revision button (or something like it) or if it's already possible make it more visible (because I couldn't find it).
See this question: nddjkfngbjkn kjnvfjkbjgfbnkj nkfvnbk[^]
Revision 2 is good but for some reason the OP replaced everything with jibberish, so I thought I'd just undo his change but couldn't find a way to do it.
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There is a 'Rollback' button when opening the revision compare page (v<num> link).
[UPDATE:] Performed the rollback after the question was unlocked from your editing.
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And where would this 'Rollback' button be located?
Because I'm not seeing it.
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Below the question is the line 'Posted ... Edited ... v<num>' where <num> specifies the version. This is a link that opens the revision history.
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Yeah I knew that but it's the 'Rollback' button I can't find.
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It is in the righmost column of the revision table. But maybe it is only available when you have enough rep points for specific sections (author in your case).
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I only have
Compare Revision Minor Date Status Editor
So probably a rights thing.
Bit confusing tho, I can edit/delete the question but I can't rollback a question.
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Go to the question click on the v4 link and you should see all the revisions, with a Rollback button in the last column for each of the older versions.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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Not there for me, see my answer to Jochen
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You're only a bronze editor - it make take silver or higher.
But it shouldn't take too long - you are half way there!
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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But I'm a bronze editor, and I see the Rollback button.
In some cases, my signature will be longer then my message...
ProgramFOX
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It may be your authorship then - I can't see any other difference in your profiles.
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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