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glennPattonWork38-Oct-13 22:52

glennPattonWork3

8-Oct-13 22:52

Ceefax Download? I remember there being some short listings on Ceefax and could remember our teacher (?) hooking up a BBC to a Ceefax tv, don't remember a modem being used...my class mates now don't remember this, was it possible?

_Maxxx_9-Oct-13 0:50

9-Oct-13 0:50

Yep - you needed an adapter [^] though (although I don't recall having one!)

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glennPattonWork39-Oct-13 1:13

glennPattonWork3

9-Oct-13 1:13

So I do remember correctly... OMG | :OMG:

GuyThiebaut8-Oct-13 19:56

GuyThiebaut

8-Oct-13 19:56

Yes, it felt like it was way ahead of the field in its day(even ahead of the speccy in my opinionated opinion ) - I learnt to program Pascal on it and it was a solid piece of kit.

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Mark_Wallace8-Oct-13 19:31

8-Oct-13 19:31

_Maxxx_ wrote:
maybe a BBC-Pad

Given that everyone in the BBC buildings considers himself to be an artist (how correct they are in their thinking is not even worth the effort of discussing), and that 90% of them are gay, which hardware do you think they'll be promoting?

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_Maxxx_8-Oct-13 20:31

8-Oct-13 20:31

Mark_Wallace wrote:
90% of them are gay, which hardware

Feeling a little homophobic todat?

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Mark_Wallace8-Oct-13 20:38

8-Oct-13 20:38

Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?

The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.

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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe8-Oct-13 21:38

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

8-Oct-13 21:38

Peer reviewed study, please - or it's just your unsubstantiated opinion. Poke tongue | ;-P

On a more serious note - as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty. Please try to think about the effect your comments may have on those who are not part of the same demographic as yourself.

Some LGBT people are very vulnerable - and thoughtless remarks really don't help. Rose | [Rose]

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Mark_Wallace8-Oct-13 22:42

8-Oct-13 22:42

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Peer reviewed study, please

As long as I don't have to include pictures... Dead | X|

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty

Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that.

What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people.

If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.

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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe9-Oct-13 0:07

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

9-Oct-13 0:07

No special treatment is required - just a little care and thought.

Thoughtless remarks can cause unnecessarily harm to vulnerable (who by definition are likely to have "have over-heightened sensibilities" through no fault of their own).

Worse, they influence others to do likewise.

Please at least try to be more thoughtful.

Anna

jschell9-Oct-13 9:22

9-Oct-13 9:22

Mark_Wallace wrote:
If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences,
because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly
think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen.

So it is quite ok with you if 90% of the stores could refuse to sell you anything because of your skin color? And also ok if 90% of businesses refused to hire you because of your religion choice?

And certainly ok with you that if 90% of people decided that they found you personally offensive for something that they thought that you might do in the privacy of your own home that they could insist that all businesses refuse to do any sort of business at all with you?

Mark_Wallace9-Oct-13 20:49

9-Oct-13 20:49

As always, you are intentionally interpreting what I say as the exact opposite of what I say.

Try reading the words I write, rather than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head.

It's getting a bit tedious, y'know.

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jschell10-Oct-13 8:57

10-Oct-13 8:57

You said "If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences...I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen".

It wasn't clear to me, especially in the context of your other comments, what exactly you think "special treatment" is exactly.

Certainly some people do in fact think that "special treatment" is a law that disallows people from doing exactly what I said (and which does happen without such laws.)

Mark_Wallace wrote:
...than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head.

Certainly possible that we are saying the same thing but I am rather certain that term does not apply to me. Especially not in a discussion about what 'gay' means in the current vernacular given that I first spoke out publicly for homosexual rights in 1974.

Mark_Wallace10-Oct-13 19:19

10-Oct-13 19:19

This really isn't worth my time to discuss, but if you can't tell the difference between treating everyone equally and giving certain groups of people special treatment, then you perhaps should refer to a dictionary.

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jschell11-Oct-13 9:00

11-Oct-13 9:00

Mark_Wallace wrote:
This really isn't worth my time to discuss, but if you can't tell the difference between treating everyone equally and giving certain groups of people special treatment, then you perhaps should refer to a dictionary.

And if you don't know enough history to understand how African Americans were treated in the US for 130 years since they were freed from slavery despite the fact that they were supposed to be "equal" then perhaps you need to read up to understand how laws are in fact needed to correct disparities.

Mark_Wallace12-Oct-13 6:13

12-Oct-13 6:13

We're not talking about US history, we're not talking about how Africans were treated in your "land of the free", and we're not talking about US law.

Perhaps you should look up "A.D.D.", as well as the differences between the words "equal" and "special".

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jschell12-Oct-13 10:26

12-Oct-13 10:26

Mark_Wallace wrote:
We're not talking about US history, we're not talking about how Africans were treated in your "land of the free", and we're not talking about US law.

And yet the UK needed to take exactly the same corrective action...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/74[^]

Mark_Wallace13-Oct-13 20:20

13-Oct-13 20:20

And yet you're still harping on about things that have nothing to do with the discussion.

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_Maxxx_9-Oct-13 0:53

9-Oct-13 0:53

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?

Not at all. And they weren't facts.

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Mark_Wallace9-Oct-13 1:03

9-Oct-13 1:03

_Maxxx_ wrote:
And they weren't facts.

You've never been to Shepherd's Bush, then?

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_Maxxx_9-Oct-13 1:09

9-Oct-13 1:09

As it happens, yes I have.

As it also happens, I think the BBC aren't there any more anyway.

I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be. But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences.

I really don't care if you shag men, women or donkeys, but (unless you really are 14 years old) feel you should perhaps grow up and act a little more maturely.

MVVM # - I did it My Way
___________________________________________
Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011

.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')

Mark_Wallace9-Oct-13 1:12

9-Oct-13 1:12

_Maxxx_ wrote:
I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be.

Indeed. 90%. Are you paying attention, or what?

_Maxxx_ wrote:
But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences.

You don't have to be particularly observant to recognise that you're the odd man out.

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jschell9-Oct-13 9:17

9-Oct-13 9:17

Mark_Wallace wrote:
The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not
imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.

True = but of course one must first start with a fact.

Simon O'Riordan from UK8-Oct-13 20:58

Simon O'Riordan from UK

8-Oct-13 20:58

i-Don't know. i-Really couldn't say. Laugh | :laugh: