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Hard to make a movie that will match the book. Not many have. There are issues with cost, length, and viewpoint, to mentiona few. Still they were fun movies and a large part because of Harrison Ford and Sean Connery.
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Clifford Nelson wrote: Harrison Ford
He's no Jack Ryan. "Clear and Present Danger" was horribly cast.
"Red October" is awesome.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Clifford Nelson wrote: Harrison Ford
He's no Jack Ryan. "Clear and Present Danger" was horribly cast.
"Red October" is awesome. Not nearly as bad as Afflack in Sum of All Fears.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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I'm fairly sure I skipped that one entirely.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I'm fairly sure I skipped that one entirely. Good call.
Despite how it has been said that the movies did not follow the books, I thought they did a good job. You'd be going along knowing the scenes from the book and then they'd diverge, which to me, I took as something to keep the book readers engaged. Other times for the sake of budget and/or "movie making", but I did not feel they had violated the spirit of the books. (alright the climatic battle with Harrison Ford/Jack Ryan in Patriot Games was stretch, but I'm sure the producers felt that the "action hero" had to have a heroic moment as opposed to the Coast Guard cutter catching the bad guy)
Sum of All Fears was a screenplay by someone who read the book on acid and then tried to recreate it from memory.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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So who did you like at Jack Ryan. I was not impressed with Alec Baldwin as jack Ryan. Sean Connery just dominated the film, and he was not supposed to be the main character. Do you have someone you would like to see as Jack Ryan.
I know that I was totally disappointed in Tom Hanks as Robert Langdon, and hated what they did to the female characters that were strong in the book, but wimpy in the movies and made Robert too spiratual. Think that Russell Crowe would have been much better, but would have to fix a whole lot of things to make them the movies I think they could be. Tom Hanks has never impressed me except Forest Gump.
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I very much liked Alec Baldwin in Red October. I can't stand him now though.
And changing actors made no sense.
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Sometimes it is unavoidable. It can be quite disconcerting. I know I really liked Bill Murray in as Bosley, the best ever, but he is in demand. Don't know why that did not keep Alec Baldwin, except he was never much of a draw. Hunt for Red October had Sean as the big draw, and maybe that was the only high price actor they wanted to pay for. Recently Sean has not played in much significant.
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My favorite author. He'll be sorely missed.
He's got another moving coming 12/13 starring Chris Pine as Ryan.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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The one author I really enjoyed. His books are several cuts above everyone else.
He will definitely be missed...I wonder if he has any 'unreleased' books.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I read that there is another coming out in November.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
modified 3-Oct-13 10:35am.
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Sounds like there is another movie and book coming out this year (the only good news here).
What I haven't heard yet was the cause of death?
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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S Douglas wrote: What I haven't heard yet was the cause of death? Political assassination.
The book I'm reading now seems to have the bad guys as a thinly veiled Obama and George Soros.
I thought it was bad in his last books where he started wearing his religion on his sleeve, but this latest one, he's added his politics. It seems he is a fan of extraordinary rendition and enhanced interrogation techniques.
Psychosis at 10
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Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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You do realize that his death was peculiar.
He began writing a book this past summer which was quite telling of the US NSA's technology spy snooping efforts and how a rogue President was manipulating the various executive departments and judicial branch to his own agenda.
Jack Ryan would "come out of retirement" to lead a small mercenary team to save the Nation.
"Tom Clancy .... died after a brief illness."
Yeah, right.
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"a brief illness"... otherwise known as "poisoned"
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The latest book was about Jack Junior running around to save the world. Jack Senior was trying to run for re-election.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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He peaked and disappeared. Replaced by Vince Flynn.
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Smart apostrophe removal there.
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To be honest there are many reasons I am glad I do not live in China, hornets being just one of the lesser ones.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Er, yeah, because Luton is so much better than one of the oldest and greatest cultures in the world.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Well, it has indoor toilets and no internet censor.
Also we do not have a one child policy and smog choked cities.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Dalek Dave wrote: Well, it has ... no internet censor.
Yet.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Don't knock GCHQ, they are the only part of government that actually listens to the people!
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Obscurum per obscurius.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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