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Sorry, misstated that, I intended that when you were moving back in time you would have to hit the breaks sooner to hit just before HTML. IE less distance back in time, not more. I may have also totally misread what you said.
By the way, since you want something better than HTML at a time when HTML was a trailblazing concept, how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?
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KP Lee wrote: how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?
By bringing a laptop back with me and showing him the nightmare that web development has become. 
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: ...showing him the nightmare...
HTML is a simple markup language, originally designed to provide a reporting process over the web, it isn't complex enough to make the web a nightmare. You can't really lay the web environment we have now at its feet.
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Wash your keyboard out with SOAP!
I quite like Assembly code...
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Wash your keyboard out with SOAP!
Good idea. I have downloaded Apache Axis and wanted to take a look at it.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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Well, it is a scripting language, after all: the one having even the very name misleading. 
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Okay, BASIC I'll go for, but don't impugn Assembly. It takes far more knowledge of hardware, and programming skill, to build a useful program using Assembly than any of the modern languages. And yes, sometimes it has to be done...
Will Rogers never met me.
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; =========================================================================================
; Parameters:
; RE.0 X coordinate of the sprite
; RE.1 Y coordinate of the sprite
; RF Pointer to sprite
; RD Size of the sprite in bytes
;
; Internal:
; RC Pointer to video memory
; =========================================================================================
DrawSprite: DEC R2
LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) ; calculate the offset in the video buffer
PHI RC ; DisplayBuffer + Y * 8 + X / 8
GHI RE ; result goes to RC
IF Resolution == 20H
ANI 1FH ; between 0 - 31
ENDIF
IF Resolution == 40H
ANI 3FH ; or 0 - 63
ENDIF
IF Resolution == 80H
ANI 7FH ; or 0 - 127
ENDIF
SHL
SHL
SHL
PLO RC
BNF DSP_SkipIncrement
GHI RC
ADI 01H
PHI RC
DSP_SkipIncrement: GLO RC
STR R2
GLO RE
ANI 3FH
SHR
SHR
SHR
ADD
PLO RC
GLO RE ; calculate the number of required shifts
ANI 07H ; result to RE.1, replacing the Y coordinate
PHI RE ; RE.0 will be used later to count the shifts
DSP_ByteLoop: GLO RD ; exit if all bytes of the sprite have been drawn
BZ DSP_Exit
IF Resolution == 20H ; or if we are about to draw outside the video buffer
LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) ; only one page at 64 x 32
ENDIF
IF Resolution == 40H
LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) + 1 ; two pages at 64 x 64
ENDIF
IF Resolution == 80H
LDI hi(DisplayBuffer) + 3 ; four pages at 64 x 128
ENDIF
STR R2
GHI RC
SD
BNF DSP_Exit
LDN RF ; load the next byte of the sprite into RB.0
PLO RB
LDI 00H ; set RB.1 to OOH
PHI RB
DEC RD ; decrement the sprite's byte counter
INC RF ; increment the pointer to the sprite's bytes
GHI RE ; prepare the shift counter
PLO RE
DSP_ShiftLoop: GLO RE ; exit the loop if all shifts have been performed
BZ DSP_ShiftExit
DEC RE ; decrement the shift counter
GLO RB ; shift the values in RB
SHR
PLO RB
GHI RB
RSHR
PHI RB
BR DSP_ShiftLoop
DSP_ShiftExit: SEX RC ; store the shifted bytes in the video buffer
GLO RB
XOR
STR RC
INC RC
GHI RB
XOR
STR RC
SEX R2
GLO RC ; advance the video buffer pointer to the next line
ADI 07H
PLO RC
GHI RC
ADCI 00H
PHI RC
BR DSP_ByteLoop
DSP_Exit INC R2
SEP R5
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
modified 16-Nov-13 23:56pm.
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Yup.. That's the stuff.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Ahh, good morning (at leat it is early morning here). I got this drivel from here[^].
While I don't enjoy JavaScript very much, I still have some assembly which I occasionally work on. The code I have posted is used to draw a bitmap patten at any screen coordinates. I use it for text output, but also can be used to draw sprites in a game. That's why ther also collison detection.
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CDP1802 wrote: allows any {place insulting word of choice here]
I believe that code block is not properly closed. I don't think you would want to debug that kind of error in a Javascript file...
This isn't a signature
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Andrei Straut wrote: I believe that code block is not properly closed
For a computer compiler probably, but even there you could code "{]" or "[}" as a pair of opening and closing braces.
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I think that's why I like JS so much - it reminds me of the C64. However, I wouldn't use it for large applications, but scripts of a few hundred or thousand lines or so are fun to code in JS. I like OOP too, though I often think it's an overkill on simple scripts. I suppose as a hobbyist I don't have to deal with a hundred thousand lines plus of code, which would probably change my perspective.
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Anybody's company planning to use it? Do you think it makes sense for teams of <=5 developers?
S. Somasegar's blog post[^]
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
modified 15-Nov-13 20:54pm.
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Sorry. Modified OP.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Well I'm using half of what they consider to be Visual Studio Online (TFS services), and I greatly enjoy using the free TFS, its really changed the way I work and store code. Its very usable, simple, and keeps me organized.
Not sure if I'd do online code editing though, I do like IDE features.
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Agreed. I signed up for the TFS online, but haven't put any of my projects into it yet.
I guess I'm afraid they will start charging one day.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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As of now it's free up to 5 developers. If you want to add more then you got to pay. I hope we can make use of it until they give it for free and hope it will be in future.
It's really a good thing to use say if a small group of individuals or freelancers working together in some projects.
Thanks,
Ranjan.D
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My tin hat would shrink by a number of millimetres, personally I'm way too paranoid to have any of my day to day tools anywhere but local. And the bank I work for is even more so - and I approve  .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: too paranoid to have any of my day to day tools anywhere but local.
I understand, believe me.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I was wondering how long it would be before the cloud domino fell.
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May I ask you to clarify what you mean?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Sorry I guess that was quit cryptic, when Adobe went to the cloud with Photoshop there was a big outcry and I predicted that a lot of large companies would be offering the same. At least uSoft is giving the option of owning a copy also.
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We (2 Users) are using TFS Online for over a year now, and it works just fine. No problems so far.
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