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Well, if they do nothing in the way of promotion better write and publish it your self.
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That's an option these days, and one I considered for my own work. However, it would cost me thousands of dollars to hire the professional editors, compositors, artists and other talent to insure a professional quality title. Working with a publisher, I get those services for free.
And of course, any author who feels that he shouldn't have to participate in the marketing and promotion of his work won't have much fun in the world of self publishing.
There are benefits to self publishing and to working with an established publisher. I looked at both and went the approach that would serve me best. That said, there is no path that doesn't involve the author being actively engaged in promotion.
Have you had good experiences self publishing your own books?
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I wrote a maths textbook years ago which was published in the traditional manner (All the internet facilities did not exist then) but I never had time to promote it. I took it back from the publisher and published in on Lulu. I know that self publishing means spending time on promotion, and I concentrate on writing articles now
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Yeah, there's different motivations for writing and as you well know, a book is a heckuva lot of work. Of course, what they don't tell you in the beginning is that's when it's published, the work has just begun. 
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Yep. I now use my articles as online notes and hopefully get a few coppers from people clicking ads (except on researchgate where I am hoping to build a bit of a reputation )
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I'm curious if the tech publishing industry treats its writers any better than most fiction publishers do?
This post was triggered by SF author/blogger Sarah Hoyt doing a retrospective[^] on her state of the industry post from 2011 titled "He Beats Me But He’s My Publisher". Short version: it hasn't gotten any better.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I've always enjoyed a great relationship with my publisher and they treat me quite well. You'll find that the root of most artistic complaints (and not just in writing) is unrealistic expectations.
Creative people expect that they shouldn't have to do anything but create and then sit back and let everyone else do all the work of gemerating revenue. They're also shocked when businesses act like for-profit entities. Not surprisingly,when you approach the world with such expectations, you'll suffer a never ending stream of disappointments.
Whether it's books, music, film, dance, graphics or any other creative endeavor, if you want to make a full or part time living at it, you have to understand and embrace the business side of things. Wishful thinking is not an effective strategy.
In fact, that's why I wrote Have Fun, Get Paid, to help those who really do want to help themselves. 95% of creatives will run screaming in the opposite direction and continue to search for a "somethiing for nothing" lifestyle. The other 5% will enjoy success, and will also have a much more positive relationship with their industry.
modified 13-Feb-14 10:31am.
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Well done Vilmos!
I turned on the coffee machine, added the ground and started to draw water.
Why, oy why, didn't I wait 5 minutes for the water to heat up... 
speramus in juniperus
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Simple: you were low on caffeine.
I would suggest drinking a cup or two of ![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif) before attempting complex operations such as this in future.
Oh, wait...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Infinite Loop!
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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This morning I put my porridge in the microwave with no milk in it ... 
I'm only glad I made it through the drive into work today unscathed! 
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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I didn't know you could make porridge out of cocoa. 
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You are right, its not even chocolatey, I must change my breakfast to Coco Pops! 
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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I would have expected Krave or something similar.
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This morning, my girlfriend didn't wake me up with coffee...
I woke up late and forgot my cigs
+ I had no coffee!
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I woke up today morning n made myself a cup of coffee...only to hear my missus tellin me that I am havin too much coffee!!!
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Dinesh.V.Kumar wrote: too much coffee
No, no...I don't get it.
I mean, I understand all the individual words, but as a phrase they are just meaningless. 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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It was just a rant...Herself hates coffee...even if I drink one cup of coffee she feels I am having too much of it..n starts complaining...
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Trade her in on a better model! 
She'll be banning BACON next... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: She'll be banning BACON next...
Take those words back!
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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...txen NOCAB gninnab eb ll'ehS
Happy now?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Yes as I can't read that bacon has been banned by anyone 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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OriginalGriff wrote: Trade her in on a better model!
ha ha ..but i cant..i will hv 2 live with...u knw....
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Did you dream of him [^] last night, or wake up muttering: "extra crispy" ?
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
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