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ahmed zahmed wrote: Word has leaked that Microsoft is building a new version of Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF),
It is indeed. Microsoft is building up the WPF team as we speak.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: ahmed zahmed wrote: Word has leaked that Microsoft is building a new version of Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF),
It is indeed. Microsoft is building up the WPF team as we speak.
In line with other MS moves to consolidate their tech stacks I'm thinking ... one XAML/runtimeAPI for WP8/Metro/Wpf-Desktop apps?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I wonder though if this is going to be some crappy "Windows 8 only" framework.
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I don't think so. They already have a crappy Windows 8 only version. They don't need two.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: They don't need two.
This is Microsoft we are talking about... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Microsoft is in the final stages of negotiations that could lead to either an acquisition or major investment in Xamarin, sources with knowledge of the discussions told CRN recently.
If true, I give Nadella two thumbs up for this move.
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Same here as long as they keep the crossplatform nature of Mono intact. If they do and also incorporate "native" knowledge of .Net into Mono, that'd be awesome! I think that would make the platform more easily depended on.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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ahmed zahmed wrote: as long as they keep the crossplatform nature of Mono intact.
There would seem little point in not doing so, otherwise why not just use existing Visual Studio? But pricing could be interesting.
Kevin
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: pricing could be interesting
Yes, it would be. At least increase the minimum size of the executables for the free version. At the moment, 32kb makes it rather difficult to write any really usable free apps...
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: why not just use existing Visual Studio
 Does existing VS by itself offer crossplaform support?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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My point was that if they were going to buy Xamarin and kill off its cross-platform support then why have non x-platform VS and non x-platform Xamarin? It wouldn't make sense.
Kevin
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maybe they just want to kill off mono altogether, so .NET is exclusive to Microsoft platforms
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Since MS write apps for iOS and Android and also use Mono themselves it wouldn't make much sense. If Mono was being used to write killer apps on [desktop] Linux that threatened Windows/Office then that would be a different matter. But Mono is pretty much focused on mobile now. If MS can figure out how to make enough money in the non-Windows mobile space then they'll use what they can.
Kevin
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With all the respect to Nadella - if negotiations in it's final state, that not his work...it began earlier...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Good point. It could well be considered the last check in Ballmer's relatively short win column.
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I hope it's just MS shoveling money into Xamarin to help them expand and catch mono up to the CLR. Despite their attempts to reform, if MS buys the company it's going to have an even larger stigma to try and overcome in penguinland than it currently does.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: an even larger stigma to try and overcome in penguinland than it currently does.
I think MS is targeting mobile (iOS and Android), not Linux.
/ravi
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Funny I was thinking this would be a shrewd move to 'edge' into Android development thus keeping its .net developers happy.
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No fair getting up before me to get a drop on the news 
TTFN - Kent
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East Coast life 
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If the average programmer writes about 50 lines of production code a day. A 50,000 line program would take 1,000 man days to produce. The 50,000 line listing can be entered by a programmer at about 1,000 lines a day or about 50 man days. So what the heck are the developers doing for the other 950 days? Can you write a program that writes itself? Oh, a different paradox.
What are developers doing when they're not coding? Drinking, eating bacon, and posting on The Lounge, according to my highly scientific study.
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aka, browsing codeproject on their smert phone while some guy with a tie rambles on 
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It's all coding. All the way down.
I might as well post it: http://xkcd.com/303/[^]
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: the other 950 days?
writing about 950,000 lines of bugs.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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JDK Enhancement Proposal (JEP) 191 defines the Java Foreign Function Interface (FFI), which are interfaces that can bind native functions to Java methods and can manage blocks of native memory. Oh, look: j[DllImport]
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