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view [vyoo]
noun
1. an instance of seeing or beholding; visual inspection.
2. sight; vision.
(And I posted to the wrong response. Oh well. Sorry.)
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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If anyone using or investigating MVC really gets confused over the use of View for the user interface then they probably shouldn't be.
A view includes user input via mouse, keyboard, touchScreen or telepathy - but does anyone not using it really not understand?
People still say they are going to "tape a show on TV" - and are well understood.
or "pull the chain" on the toilet.
or dial a phone number to make it ring
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I'm no spring chicken (and I lived on a rural ranch when I was young, where we used outhouses and a separate cold-water shower building), and I've never heard "pull the chain on the toilet"
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Probs an English thing. From the days when the cistern was high above the pan, and a chain hung from the flushing handle
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Probs an English thing. From the days when the cistern was high above the pan, and a chain hung from the flushing handle
No we had it in the colonies when I was young also. 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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B. Clay Shannon wrote: we used outhouses ... and I've never heard "pull the chain on the toilet"
That is because outhouses don't have flush toilets. 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I was saying that I'd been around the block a few times and lived in simpler times and in the rurals, not that outhouses == flush toilets.
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Toilet with elevated cistern and pull chain[^]
Actually, I grew up in New York City and as a boy I remember seeing these toilets in old restaurants in the 1950's so it had nothing to do with rural or urban, these are what toilets were like before the more modern versions we are used to seeing these days.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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It's 'view' because in 99% of cases, the user presentation is visual. I'm not even sure I agree with the definition as quoted, audio would typically not be sent to 'the view' but to a separate presentation layer class.
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Chris Sevier, a lawyer who achieved some fame by suing Apple for his MacBook making it easy for him to become addicted to pron, has now upped the ante by demanding to intervene in a same-sex marriage case in Florida, claiming that true equal rights under the law requires he should be able to legally marry his MacBook: [^].
Sevier states in his motion before the court:
"Proponents of gay behavior had made the choice to have sex with members of the same sex, and due to the straight forward science of dopamine, they have become bonded together with a person of the same sex upon repeated orgasm, naturally developing a preference that they argue is worth having state recognition and ratification." Unfortunately, for aficionados of the surreal, the presiding Judge dismissed his motion.
The second page of the linked-to story has Sevier's complete motion in full, including sixteen examples Sevier claims illustrate marriage with ... errr ... alternatives. The third page has the Judge's dismissal.
I cannot imagine my computer would want to marry me: why should it ? It already owns me.
“I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges
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BillWoodruff wrote: It already owns me.
Is that really any different than a girl?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: BillWoodruff wrote: It [MacBook] already owns me.
Is that really any different than a girl?
If I have to explain the difference you are more troubled than Chris Sevier. 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Chris Sevier, a lawyer
I read that as "Client Server", being a lawyer, I suppose he is though!
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Dave wins!
Software Zen: delete this;
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Someone needs to just hit him in the head with a ball peen hammer.
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It's a good job there's no such thing as a head peen hammer.
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BillWoodruff wrote: they have become bonded together with a person of the same sex upon repeated orgasm
I do wonder how his computer has an orgasm so there can be mutual bonding. Me thinks the guy is a twat!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I think he has a bunch of screws missing in his head.
i.e. He is a stupid, dumb idiot.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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He's confusing one PDA (Personal Digital Assistant) with another PDA (Public Display of Affection).
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Please let it be real, please let it be real[^]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Had to send that off to my previous employ; a friend works the help desk there.
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"Re: I want! I Want! Want NOW!"
So print it; I did. 
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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One of my laments was our shift from CRT monitors for our systems to flat panels. With the CRT, at least there was the chance I could get one of the hardware weenies to hook the monitor's high voltage supply directly to the keyboard under software control.
User-friendly my ass. I want user-lethal.
Software Zen: delete this;
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After spending the better part of the last decade implementing e-recycle fees on new purchases and diverting plastic waste from being sent to china, all in the name of them not burning plastic - we turn around and burn plastic for sport.
Is burning plastic not the fastest way to trigger cancer?
If so why is 3D printing not considered a major health risk?
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