|
People found guilty of Internet "trolling" in Britain could be jailed for up to two years under government proposals outlined on Sunday, following a number of high-profile cases of abusive and threatening behaviour on Twitter. The Lounge might become a lonely place...
|
|
|
|
|
As if any of our local trolls were in the UK. 
|
|
|
|
|
Be brave troller is coming 
In code we trust !
|
|
|
|
|
This is such a hard call to make - on the one hand some of the recent excesses (gamergate is a good recent example) have made me begin to think that anonymity on the Internet is not worth the price, on the other the potential for abuse by the government to stifle dissent is also horrifying.
Sadly, it looks like trolls may cause the entire Internet to lose some of its freedom.
Largely, I blame the large Internet companies (Google, Yahoo, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) for failing to get their house in order. They're the people with the resources to come up with a solution to this. Their failure to do so may cost us all an important freedom.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
|
|
|
|
|
Rob Grainger wrote: have made me begin to think that anonymity on the Internet is not worth the
price
Anonymity provides freedom, the freedom of speech among others. If the media are controlled, you cannot talk of freedom. And no, it is not worth giving up because some idiots used some harsh words.
Rob Grainger wrote: Their failure to do so may cost us all an important freedom.
Well, yaah, apparantly - I am going to guess that most people rather have a friendly place without freedom than anything else.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
|
|
|
|
|
Eddy Vluggen wrote: some idiots used some harsh words.
If it was only idiots using harsh words, then I don't think it would be as much of a problem. If they locked up everyone who called someone a c*nt on Twatter, then between Piers Morgan and David Cameron, most of the UK would be behind bars.
Unfortunately, some total f*cktards thought it would be a good idea to start posting women's home addresses and other personal information, accompanied by threats of rape and murder.
Whilst I'm generally opposed to censorship and de-anonymising the Internet, the people making these kinds of post clearly need to be tracked down and locked up.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
|
|
|
|
|
Richard Deeming wrote: Unfortunately, some total f*cktards thought it would be a good idea
Good point, didn't know it was that extreme.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
|
|
|
|
|
Sadly, I suspect the UK government may not be good at drawing up a law that differentiates the normal idiots from these malicious ones. I fully support the full weight of the law against the latter, but don't think someone should face two years for describing Cameron online as a W**ker. That's the same sentence as you face for racially motivated assault in this country.
Don't misunderstand me, I strongly believe in free speech, but at least a couple of women have been forced out of their homes by these retards - due to their addresses being outed (doxing) and believable threats to them and their families. Just because they dared to criticise the portrayal of women in games (i.e. exercising their right to free speech).
Free speech, yes, threats and intimidation - definitely no.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
|
|
|
|
|
Rob Grainger wrote: Don't misunderstand me, I strongly believe in free speech
Yes, but not if it is abused like that.
Rob Grainger wrote: These aren't simple black and white issues.
Agreed; and a sad sight.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
|
|
|
|
|
Sadly too, one of the recent "trolls" outed by the British media (actually the Daily Mail I believe, to name and shame, in comments related to the McCann case, turned out to be a 67 year old woman, who has since committed suicide. In this case, she wasn't directly addressing her remarks to the McCann's, and was expressing her opinion - which I believe she was entitled to, even if I strongly disagree with her.
These aren't simple black and white issues.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
|
|
|
|
|
Thanks, saved me pointing this out.
I don't have a problem with casual abuse (I'd prefer it wasn't so endemic, but I can live with that), but the recent gamergate stuff illustrates just how far out of hand it gets.
Incidentally, Intel and IBM deserve some opprobrium here, for withdrawing advertising from at least one gaming site after campaigns initiated by the same bunch of idiots. These large companies shouldn't bow to these idiots. Linkety.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
|
|
|
|
|
Richard Deeming wrote: need to be tracked down and locked up together
FTFY
|
|
|
|
|
Posting naked pictures of someone on the internet without their consent is not trolling, but sexual harassment and their crime should be named as such by the media because trolling isn't illegal.
.
|
|
|
|
|
This. Trolling shouldn't be illegal. Making rape and death threats isn't trolling, either. It's making terroristic threats. They throw terrorism at everything else under the sun, why not this, which might be one of the few places where it actually applies?
|
|
|
|
|
No, terrorism is terror used for political ends - we need to be very careful about letting politicians label everything as terrorism. In the UK anti-terrorism law is already abused - most recently using "metadata" information to uncover a journalist's sources.
It is definitely sexually harrassment and intimidation. That should be enough to jail them, when they can be identified.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
|
|
|
|
|
The 2014 CAST Research on Application Software Health (CRASH) report states that enterprise software built using a mixture of agile and waterfall methods will result in more robust and secure applications than those built using either agile or waterfall methods alone. "Me and you and you and me. No matter how they toss the dice, it has to be".
|
|
|
|
|
Kent Sharkey wrote: "Me and you and you and me. No matter how they toss the dice, it has to be".
Seriously, my first thought was meeting an agile girl under a waterfall or something. 
|
|
|
|
|
Dear developers: Do you feel insecure because you’re only fluent in a mere eight programming languages used across three families of devices? Does exposure to yet another JavaScript framework make you shudder and wince? Have you postponed a pet project because you couldn’t figure out which cloud platform would be best for it? Symptoms include: cubiclitis, compilerthesia, and acute hyperdactilation
|
|
|
|
|
Intel has released what it says is 'the first' suite of tools for the development of native applications across architectures, operating systems and integrated development environments (IDE.) Does that mean it blows?
|
|
|
|
|
Excuse me Mr. Adrian Bridgwater, but who told you that programming sucks?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
|
|
|
|
|
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Excuse me Mr. Adrian Bridgwater, but who told you that programming sucks?
Marc's 10 reasons why programming sucks:
1. The minute I step into web development
2. The minute I open Eclipse to do some Beaglebone development
3. The minute I try using Ubuntu et al.
4. The minute I realize the only language available on the Mac, until recently, was ObjectiveC
5. The minute I have to touch someone else's crap Ruby, PHP, HTML, CSS, C#, Java, Javascript etc. undocumented, uncommented spaghetti code
6. The minute I have to use any duck-typed language
7. The minute I have to touch one of those purported "awesome" j  frameworks.
8. The minute I have to deal with someone else's inane decision making (like using PHP on a Windows Server connecting to SQL Server. Why????)
9. The minute I open VS2012 and am confronted with a SCREAMING menu (yes, I already regedited that fix) and a monochromatic solution tree.
10. The f***ing nanosecond I have to touch Windows 8.
Bonus:
#11: The picosecond I have to use Git.
Marc
|
|
|
|
|
Glad I don't have to deal with any of that.
|
|
|
|
|
You need a natural language programming language.
|
|
|
|
|
Usually when I see something referred to as a "suite of tools" the first thing that comes to mind is a "cluster sunshine". I was nice this time.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
|
|
|
|
|
Development doesn't suck; suites of tools for development suck.
"intelligent graphics engine powers built into the chipset itself."
I'm pretty sure my Alphas don't have that; certainly my VAX doesn't. So does "native applications across architectures" mean "native applications across Intel architectures"? If so, how about Itanium? I still want an Itanium-powered server to flush out my OpenVMS museum.
"use Intel INDE within the IDE they prefer"
LSE?[^]
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
