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Sorry - apologies for any misunderstanding caused by me.
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Quote: 'sick-leave-trend' in an employee because of periodic stomach disorder, then he/she needs to be counselled
Oops - over keen post of message there 
Was going to say ... or find the bar they're drinking in and start frequenting it too 
(It was funnier when I first thought of it)
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I called in sick once and the boss asked me how sick I was. I guess saying I was in bed with goat was the wrong answer...
veni bibi saltavi
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I usually don't, I just take care to not stay too close to my colleagues. Unfortunately the recent changes about sick days laws in Italy made many cases of sickness unpaid.
Also my doctor is 8 km by car from where I live and he's the nearest one, and has strange receiving hours (just a couple of hours 3 days/week). It is so hard to take sick days that I almost prefer taking paid leave hours.
In 3 years I kind of kept myself in good condition so I never fell really ill, and normally across weekends or holidays. Of course should I be really in bad shape I'd take sick days.
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Bloody hell. There are enough articles out there on how much it costs businesses when sick employees come to work and infect others. Stay home and if your company allows you to work from home, offer that you can at least be marginally functional from home.
RUs123 wrote: When is it better to stay at home if you are sick?
When you're sick!
RUs123 wrote: How do you deal with colds and work ?
By staying at home and resting!
Now, the irony is, I work at home, and when I get sick, I actually make sure I don't work -- I stay in bed, I try to sleep as much as possible, drink lots of fluids, if the fever is particularly bad I'll take some Motrin. The result is that I don't get as sick and I get better faster, even with my "office" 20 feet away from the bedroom.
Marc
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Here in Italy work contracts magically stop being renewed when someone calls sick, or workers are moved in other divisions of the companies, that unluckily fail before the end of the year with subsequent layoffs.
Is it legal? No. Does it matter? neither. Right now if a worker has been unjustifiably laid off and presents a lawsuits and wins he is not entitled to have back his job.
Sometimes I see a grim future ahead...
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den2k88 wrote: Here in Italy work contracts magically stop being renewed when someone calls sick
Wow. So much for the civilized world. Thanks for the education, I thought Europe was more socially advanced than the US.
Marc
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On the paper yes, under the surface not. In Italy more than in any other country I have ever seen there is a tendence to completely ignore any rule. Everything goes on by personal favours, acquaintances and understood agreement not to make any rule enforced (if I see someone breaking the law it is expected that I turn my head and pretend I didn't see, anyone denouncing the crime is socially scorned, even if not publicly).
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It all depends on whether you are perm or contract. If contract, always go in unless you are dying (or dead even), but if perm, although a cold is not that bad, it makes more sense to not spread it around. As a perm, is it not obligatory to have a least one day sick per month!! Not having been perm for a very long time, I have forgotten. 
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About a year ago I had been off sick and came in when I felt better. I had a bad case of post-viral blockage and coughing, even though I was clearly no longer infectious (no temperature etc.).
Someone complained to HR about me.
Since then I have no qualms about taking sick days.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I stay home if illness affects my ability to think or drive. Or if I think I'll be coughing or blowing my nose too frequently for my neighbors.
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If I'm pretty sure that I'm going to have to write all of the code that I'm working on because I feel like crap, then I go home.
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It's better to stay at home if you're sick so you don't pass the sickness on to your coworkers.
But, don't you need to watch out for the KGB or something? Will they be suspicious?
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Why don't ask directly you boss?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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...is wanting to go home. It's barely after 22:30 and I'm only AUD$194.00 in so far.
More drinking to come.
Michael Martin
Australia
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- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Only £100 and she wants out? Tch! Lightweight! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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$194 at say $5 a beer (makes the maths easier!) is
38 drinks
Just you and your boy and the missus?
That's 12 each!
you've been there since what? 7:30?
that's one every 15 minutes?
Not a bad pace! Good life lesson for the kid!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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_Maxxx_ wrote: $5 a beer
Expensive beer you guys drink ...
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HobbyProggy wrote: Expensive beer you guys drink ...
no, just f***ing big glasses 
Actually, beer in pubs is expensive here (IMHO) $5 isn't an expensive beer - and that's only a schooner - so about 3.4 pint!
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_Maxxx_ wrote: so about 3.4 pint!
That makes german beer quite expensive ....
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Don't think so, its 10$ here. 
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I know that kind of ... bar.
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I'm $4.60 a beer, they're $6.70 a mixed spirit.
If you think they're matching me you're faarrrkkkking dreaming.
Also payimg for the Missus's pokies, the TAB and food.
Won a doggies quinella, so the TAB cost me nothing.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Well, good drinking and pi**ing then
Seems reasonable:
10 Beer á 3,20€ - 32€ (0,5l)
6 Cocktails á 8€ - 48€ (0,5l)
2 Cokes á 5,60€ 2,80€ - 11,20€ 5,60€ (0,5l) to refill some non alc stuff
=> 91,20€ (103,50$) per person
You got a lot to then, still 100$ missing
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