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Whilst it may be true that he's a victim, he's at least as much a victim of his avaricious mother that treated him like a prince and pushed him into this bizarre celebrity dimension to vicariously feed her own ego.
Since then we have been victims of his awful pop wailing and his ever more objectionable behaviour.
I say put him out of his misery in a helicopter so that our own misery be relieved. But include his "mom" on the ride!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Nah, they aren't victims. I never meant to say that. Justin decided what he is for himself, just like everyone else does.
If drugs are involved, that is his problem and does not make him a victim. Being stupid/arrogant does not make you a victim.
I just wanted to point out, that it's very common for people to write things about certain celebrities and notice them more, while "normal" people are not really all that different. There are smart celebrities, we just don't get the daily gossip of them because, well they are smart 
Also seeing x celebrity mentioned everywhere because someone hates him/her so much is just giving him/her fame through infamy. I don't get the irrational hatred behind this.
And I'm not saying it's inappropriate or that I am offended by anything, far from it, just want a debate 
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We're all victims of our upbringing, (his was just worse than most), choices, peer pressure and life in general. It's quite true that how you deal with it all is what defines you.
Quote: don't get the irrational hatred behind this.
That's easy to explain: a) we hate that which causes us pain (I think that's actually pretty rational!) b) humour: never let facts get in the way of a joke, especially when the object of the joke is subject to clause a)
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Well in that perspective we all are and none of us are then.
I reserve the word victim for someone who has it worse than most people.
For example: I had bad things happen to me(who hasn't) and life wasn't fair in some important aspects, but I don't consider myself a victim - even though I did wallow in self-pity for a year in high school thinking I was one.
Quote: It's quite true that how you deal with it all is what defines you.
 Very well put.
Quote: That's easy to explain: a) we hate that which causes us pain (I think that's actually pretty rational!) b) humour: never let facts get in the way of a joke, especially when the object of the joke is subject to clause a)
Ok, if b is the case, then maybe I have seen this joke too much - quite possible.
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Accidents do happen. Anytime, not just while making TV shows. Even staying in bed and not going outside for any reason will save you, as most people still die in bed.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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"Leben ist lebensgefährlich" would get lost in translation.
I reckon that sh*t happens, but I bet with you they hired inexperienced pilots who completely f***ed up, for the sake of saving some money, and thereby killed ten people. The same company had another game participant die two years ago on one of their game filming. Either these people are damn unlucky, or somewhere someone is lacking required competences.
Accidents do happen, but geeez... for a damn reality-TV-show...
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Hovering a helicopter is not easy, especially near the ground and with a second helicopter nearby.
The own 'air cushion' while hovering in ground effect can cause sudden instability and that of the other helicopter complicates things even more. You would need the reflexes of a cat to keep a helicopter completely steady under such conditions.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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Stop those reality shows - especially the dangerous ones.
Adventure with nature doesn't work always; and as you say, not worth it for just a TV show.
RIP for the ten lives lost ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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The biggest shame is that it happened on the wrong show.
Can I nominate the next one?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Just what is Griff smoking?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I don't like fish, so I would prefer him smoking ham.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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Lamb, of course ![Sheep | [baah]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sheep.gif)
Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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longbottom leaf ? 
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I don't.
I gave up cigarettes over ten years ago, and haven't touched dope for must be twenty years or more.
In fact, no illegal substances have been partaken of in at least twenty years now...surprising, really, when I think just how much I used to consume... 
I don't even drink seriously anymore.
And before anyone gets started, I'm not on solvents, glue, paint, nail varnish thinner, mushrooms, or into licking toads either! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'm not on solvents, glue, paint, nail varnish thinner, mushrooms, or into licking toads either!
But you're awfully informed for someone who claims he isn't using... 
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Current performance is no indicator of past history: I used to consume ridiculous amounts of narcotics, but I gave up one by one, and haven't used anything for well over a decade.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'm glad to hear that. You might even become a role model.
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So, you're drinking the Sheep Dip again?
veni bibi saltavi
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The last toad I licked was named Wanda and I had a hell of a time getting rid of her. 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
My goal in life is to have a psychiatric disorder named after me.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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But of course...One spending that much time in QA need on other 'solvents'...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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OriginalGriff wrote: into licking toads
Is tat code for ![Sheep | [baah]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sheep.gif) shagging in Wales? 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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QA!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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smoke... obvious
if(this.signature != "")
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MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
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else
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He'll get his legs smacked if it's not bacon!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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His friend's mum's laptop.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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