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Windows has finally elevated my stance to "not botherin'" mode.
I'll maybe see Winio when I buy a new machine that has its installation package pre-copied, but even that's only a maybe.
I have no faith that they will make changes that will make my use of the computer easier, and absolute faith that they will just screw things up again, making my use of the computer more difficult, again -- perhaps in different ways, but always "again".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: fanbois already have apple, so they don't need MS, and they won't buy MS
I used to think the same way about Apple.. until Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 - the combination of those two finally pushed me over to Apple and I can say that I haven't looked back. OSX works fine - no gimmicks, no touchscreen junk, it's certainly more of a pleasure to use than Windows 8.
I still use Windows for .NET development - everything else I do on Mac these days. I'm not sure this is the outcome Microsoft intended, but if they ignore their users what can they expect? 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: OSX works fine - no gimmicks, no touchscreen junk, it's certainly more of a pleasure to use than Windows 8.
I'm almost loathe to say it, because I don't want to be in any way associated with the apple fanbois camp, but there's precious little wrong with the OSX user interface.
I'd like a little more control over details, sometimes, and the machines are far too expensive, for what you get, but their designers appear to be pros who know what they're doing, and who make a good job of it.
Windows is a different world; it should focus on what its designers are good at, rather than make ham-fisted attempts to do what apple designers are good at.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: the machines are far too expensive
Depends on what you're looking for. You could argue that Windows machines are too cheap, hence the proliferation of poorly performing, unreliable machines which are awful to use.
Sure you can get a Windows laptop for £400 or less, but it's not going to be great. To get something good you're going to have to spend over £1,000 (a MacBook Air can be had for £800).
My desktop PC that I use for .NET development has - after increasing RAM and installing a 500GB SSD - cost close to the same price as my MacBook Pro just to get close to the same response times in the UI. The quality of the displays and keyboard are not as good as the Mac - I'd have to spend a lot more to get to that point.
I'd say that actually Apple's prices reflect a more appropriate value of a machine than Windows devices. You can't cut costs without compromising the performance and build quality of a system.
Just my opinion tho 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: You could argue that Windows machines are too cheap
Not any more.
For a decent (light, powerful) laptop the Macbook Air is competitive (although less so now with the McAwesome Dell XPS 13), and for simple desktops the Mac Mini is maybe $100 more expensive than a similarly equipped mini-PC from others. (I went through this painful pricing exercise over the New Year).
What Apple don't have is a mid-range solid desktop alternative. I need more power than a Mac Mini, but I do not need to spend a mortgage downpayment on a Mac Pro. I'm using iMacs and bootcamp for my Windows box and the iMacs, for some reason, are dogs when it comes to performance. Just a more powerful Mac Mini and a nice, cheap Dell monitor and I'd be very happy.
Brent Jenkins wrote: I'd say that actually Apple's prices reflect a more appropriate value of a machine than Windows devices
You've hit the nail on the head (in a way). When I was doing pricing comparisons the Windows machines seemed cheap - until you started spec'ing them up to the level of the Mac machines. The apparent price difference shrunk.
So maybe it's not "appropriate value" but more along the lines of "real world value". It felt like shopping for a car: the price seems cheap until you realise you have to pay for the air conditioning and Bluetooth.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Agreed...there needs to be 2 operating systems...the PRODUCTIVE desktop and the CONSUMPTIVE gadget interface, and they need to be kept TOTALLY SEPARATE.
Eg: OS/X is the PRODUCTIVE platform, iOS is the CONSUMPTIVE platform.
(I know 'consumptive' probably isn't an actual word, but my spell checker didn't object 
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DaveX86 wrote: (I know 'consumptive' probably isn't an actual word, but my spell checker didn't object
It is, consumption is an alternative name for Tuberculosis. Consumptive[^] refers to someone suffering from it.
It's also a pretty apt description of the world of fondleslabs.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well, there ya go...a word in the English language has been re-tasked re-purposed
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Not a glorious knight, but I find windows 8.1 to be quite serviceable. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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Windows 8.1 is ok...as long as you turn it into Windows 7 like I did
Boot to desktop, uninstall all the metro apps, disable all the charms BS and install Classic Shell - you'll barely notice the difference
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Movie Quote Of The Day
Boys are much easier!
Can't argue there, which movie?
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(No! Definitely not!)
Men on Fire...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The pickup priest 
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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Paris goes to college
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Carry on... Girls
veni bibi saltavi
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vatican city tour
Life's like a nose, you've got to get out of it whats in it!
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Finding Neverland
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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For Your Eyes Only
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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The Last Boyscout
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Operation Yewtree
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Michael Jackson- True Story
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Adam loves you 
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Nit-picking question. For example Eclipse has both Find and Search features, is there a difference?
Find[^]
2. to locate, attain, or obtain by search or effort
Search[^]
2. to look at or examine (a person, object, etc.) carefully in order to find something concealed
Is there a reason why find is used more extensively in applications? Can they be used interchangeably?
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I think the two are used pretty interchangeably in software.
to me, "Find" implies a result you are expecting, while "Search" implies more of an open-ended look.
a) I want to Find this sting in these documents.
b) I want to Search for this string in these documents.
to me, a) implies I am expecting to find it, while b) implies I don't really know if it is there or not.
So usually in source code I want to find something, whereas on the interwebs, I am searching to see if I can find something.
So Find is slightly more positive.
But that's just me.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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