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Yeah Ford lost me as a customer forever when they charged me $500.00 for an oil change and a warranty inspection.
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Kamen Nik wrote: $500.00 for an oil change and a warranty inspection
That's terrible and a terrible dealer thing.
Why would they do that to someone who bought their car?
Crazy.
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I don't know why you are blaming that on Ford. It was that specific dealership you took the car to.
Not sure how involved a warranty inspection is, but I have had maintenance checks on my Ford at a Ford dealership with oil change, tire rotation and more. As I recall, that was $79.
I did buy my previous Ford at that dealership and had the scumbag car salesman experience, but their service department is pretty good.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I found the same ridiculous when I had a TomTom GPS. They wanted me to pay for updates. What?!
I bought the hardware already. Not a'gonna pay a penny more. I'm serious.
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I got a Garmin "free"...well, I used Hilton points through Skymall...and the Hilton points were the result of business travel paid for by customers. That was about 7-10 years ago. I've never updated the maps and used to get a real chuckle when "she" got upset as I was driving on a relatively new road.
Since then I've been using my phone to nag me about when I should have turned.
cat fud heer
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On Amazon the models with lifetime maps are only a few dollars more expensive than the ones that charge you 90% of the original purchase price every year for new maps. Only the mass existence of race to the bottom buying sunshines keeps the latter on the market. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Had a simple experience with my Mazda. Luckily its a company car so work pays the updates but what a pain. One update required me to go backs and forward between the car and the computer about four times. If I was at home this wouldn't have been to bad but at work its a different story!
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I use my GPS on my nokia phone, always have it with me, is offline, always up to date, no charge (well except the cost of the phone) and is pretty damn good (better than most other GPS units I'v had the pleasure of using)
Tom
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One of my friends built his own using a Raspberry Pi and a few modules. It uses Open Street Map for map data, and can display weather (Open Weather Map), traffic (various free services), and all sorts of other things. It even has a built in web browser and a rather powerful and long lasting battery pack for on-the-go use.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: It uses Open Street Map for map data
Never heard of it.
So I just opened up the website to see.
It thinks I'm in Westphalia.
Not encouraging...
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Just for the map data/imagery. Position data and whatnot are from other sources.
And OSM simply starts out above Great Britain, no matter where you are on Earth. It doesn't do automatic location-based lookups (AFAIK).
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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In dash nav systems can't be looked at without taking your eyes off the road. They're the opposite of a safety feature.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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You don't look, you listen. My gps talks to me.
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A map sitting in my peripheral vision, in line with the hood of my car, is much more useful 99% of the time that the chatterbox function. 99.99% of the time it's also less annoying.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I think BMW now have a HUD which displays a few things including GPS. That could be useful.
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From the CP Daily News: Windows 10 to come in at least seven packages[^]
So, by the sounds of it, it looks like we're still gonna be dealing with crap like Home vs Pro vs Enterprise.
As a software developer, running the highest-level OS my MSDN license gives me access to on my primary dev machine (and a bunch more on test VMs), why is it that I still can't go buy some random cheap Windows machine at some random store, bring it home, turn it on, and do something simple like connect to it via RDP from my dev machine because Home Edition doesn't let you RDP into it? Or join my tiny home domain?
No, instead, I have to wipe that brand new machine and burn through one more of my MSDN OS licenses to do these simple things that should be built right into the OS.
If MS wants to have Windows 10 running on a billion devices by the end of this decade, they're missing an opportunity to move away from crap like this.
I certainly understand the need for different SKUs for a phone vs a desktop, but seriously, why even still have multiple versions to choose from for a freakin' desktop machine?
I can't be the only one thinking this.
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You're not. It's ridiculous - at most have 2 flavors - home and business. Besides, you have to remember that, however much they bitch and moan and deny it, Microsloth are, in actuality, a fancy-shmancy marketing company that pushes a particular brand of software and no more.
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Karel Čapek wrote: at most have 2 flavors
I think they should have:
1 desktop version
1 mobile version
I'd rather be phishing!
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Karel Čapek wrote: Microsloth are, in actuality, a fancy-shmancy marketing company that pushes a particular brand of software and no more.
What the hell? By that logic every company is marketing company and nothing more.
Company that makes a product, tries to sell it, outrageous! Call the press!
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It was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek observation.
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Microsoft really wants people to upgrade to Windows 10.
People still love Windows 7 though, so they must've thought "we need a 7 somewhere!"
And here you have it. You and I, techies, know it makes no sense, but we're techies and we'll want to upgrade anyway.
The majority of the people have no idea though, and all they hear is "Windows 10 comes in 7 different flavors"!
That's the most logical explanation I could come up with...
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They could market it as Windows 7+3 
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sander Rossel wrote: That's the most logical explanation I could come up with...
Sadly, that explanation probably makes more sense than any kind of marketing-babble they may have used.
Software Zen: delete this;
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You may hire me if you ever need some marketing talk!
I'm better than any marketing Microsoft has to offer according to this guy[^]!
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