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OriginalGriff14-Aug-15 1:33

14-Aug-15 1:33

You trust Microsoft that much? Laugh | :laugh:

I took a AOMEI disk image of the whole HDD the night before the upgrade just to be sure I could revert to exactly what I had, so if I do "Go back" that's the path I'll take.

But at the moment, I'm trying to struggle through and get to like this ~~steaming pile of cow manure~~ new operating system, if only because I know there will be quite a few people who I'll have to support who'll be using it and I don't want to have to tell them "sod off, you're on your own with that!"

But it is making itself extremely difficult to like: two whole days wasted so far, and yet to find anything I prefer compared to Win 7. Better than Win 8, but that's like saying I prefer my excrement polished to a mirror finish...

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RugbyLeague14-Aug-15 1:36

RugbyLeague

14-Aug-15 1:36

There was nothing on there I couldn't recover easily by other means Smile | :)

pkfox14-Aug-15 3:00

14-Aug-15 3:00

Griff , have you got the paid version of AOMEI ?

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OriginalGriff14-Aug-15 3:05

14-Aug-15 3:05

Nope, just the free "Standard 2.8" - works fine so far.
I might even upgrade it to 3.1 once I'm happy with the PC. Big Grin | :-D

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pkfox15-Aug-15 0:12

15-Aug-15 0:12

Ok thanks, where do you store the images ?

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OriginalGriff15-Aug-15 0:45

15-Aug-15 0:45

On a external USB HDD: I have a bunch of 2TB / 4TB Seagate drives (Amazon[^] & Amazon[^]) which AOMEI will store multiple images on (unlike MS which overwrites each time)
My 1TB PC HDD is partitioned 50/50 Apps and Data, and the whole thing compresses to around 350GB per image.

(Being a backup freak, I also have images on my NAS, thumb drives, and anywhere else I can safely hide them! Laugh | :laugh:

)

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pkfox16-Aug-15 1:45

16-Aug-15 1:45

Ok thanks Griff, one more question - what type of backup should I use to take a snapshot of the entire computer ? I'm a little unsure of the menu options

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OriginalGriff16-Aug-15 2:46

16-Aug-15 2:46

Start here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tipdoprw6kwct5h/1%20Menu.jpg?dl=0[^]
Then select https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m72ho5jdszkugd/2%20Select.jpg?dl=0[^]
Click here https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3y6f4esw1t3d6z/3%20Click.jpg?dl=0[^]
Click "Add" https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzom7ysv9e6cnai/4%20Add.jpg?dl=0[^]
Select the destination https://www.dropbox.com/s/itretl9fy0qtqf4/5%20Destination.jpg?dl=0[^]
And start the backup https://www.dropbox.com/s/qutdpljc27d02dz/6%20Start.jpg?dl=0[^]

It'll take a while, depending on how fast you media is (A thumb drive will take all night as they tend to be slow to write).

Then make a recovery disk via Utilities...Create Bootable Media.

The things I like about this is that you can store more than one backup, and you can mount backups as drives to recover individual files, as well as restoring them as an absolute disk image.

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pkfox16-Aug-15 5:10

16-Aug-15 5:10

Cheers Griff - how do you mount a drive to recover a file ?

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OriginalGriff16-Aug-15 5:54

16-Aug-15 5:54

Easy:
Utilities: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbvjycdx7r3kj4x/1%20Utilities.jpg?dl=0[^]
Select folder holding backup points: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4kcj09wnnm01p5/2%20Select%20folder.jpg?dl=0[^]
Select the back point: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0q1vtdhjas4srbe/3%20Select%20backup.jpg?dl=0[^]
Select the partition(s) and the drive letter(s) you want: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1usk1yllihsa2l6/4%20Select%20partition.jpg?dl=0[^]
And it tells you how to dismount it as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmjw7gd4i3j154p/5%20done.jpg?dl=0[^]

Now the backup just appears as a normal disk, so you can select any files you want.

If you want to torch the disk (or recreate it on a spare disk the same size) you just do a normal "restore" operation and it recreates all the partitions, MBR, and suchlike.

I like this thing - it's pretty easy to use, and it seems to work well.

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pkfox16-Aug-15 9:11

16-Aug-15 9:11

Impressive thanks very much for your time

We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

OriginalGriff16-Aug-15 9:33

16-Aug-15 9:33

You're welcome!

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pkfox17-Aug-15 0:11

17-Aug-15 0:11

Hi Griff, I followed your instructions and created a disk image but am having problems creating a bootable media,I'm trying to use a usb stick as the media and it fails at the formatting boot part ( that was trying to create a Windows PE one ) In the end having tried several usb sticks I tried a Linux one and that worked in as much as it boots but I can't see a way to select the path to my backup image ( it's on my LAN ) I've tried typing the UNC path but "lots of nothing happened" any ideas ? I suppose I should start a thread on this somewhere else ?

We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

OriginalGriff17-Aug-15 0:25

17-Aug-15 0:25

I haven't tried on mine - I've only the one USB stick and I can't recycle that at the moment as it's bootable for MS backup.

But the AOMEI web site has some instructions[^]

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pkfox17-Aug-15 1:01

17-Aug-15 1:01

Ok thanks, do I need to create bootable media to restore a backup ?( I assumed I did as I didn't think you could flash a mounted drive ) the system seems to be able to restore it without one ( although I did back out at the last minute so maybe it reboots into a shell ) Sorry to pester you Big Grin | :-D

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OriginalGriff17-Aug-15 1:25

17-Aug-15 1:25

You can't restore a system image over a boot drive - the os has nowhere to go, poor thing - but you can restore files from an AOMEI image, or from it's other backup / restore system (I haven't played with that too much, because I was rolling my own backup-to-zip system in my copious spare time but maybe it'll do what I wanted instead).

Even the MS image needs a bootable CD / USB to restore.

I just sacrificed by USB stick following the AMOEI instructions and it wrote it fine - I'll try booting from it later when my PC finishes a couple of long tasks it is running.

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pkfox17-Aug-15 1:41

17-Aug-15 1:41

So you created a Windows Bootable Media on your usb stick from the application ?

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OriginalGriff17-Aug-15 2:48

17-Aug-15 2:48

UltraISO, yes. Not from within AOMEI itself (I don't want to install the kits it needs on my PC at the moment).

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newton.saber14-Aug-15 1:40

newton.saber

14-Aug-15 1:40

Would you happen to know what caused this to occur?

You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

OriginalGriff14-Aug-15 2:01

14-Aug-15 2:01

Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead).

It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!)

I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place.
But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. Sigh | :sigh:

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newton.saber14-Aug-15 2:27

newton.saber

14-Aug-15 2:27

Thanks very much for the reply. Sorry about your current troubles.

Yes, I am on Windows 8.1. My son upgraded recently from Win 7 to 10 and he didn't report a problem so I was curious about this. He may have already had an MS account.

908236514-Aug-15 5:27

9082365

14-Aug-15 5:27

It didn't insist. The option to sign in using a local account (ie. the one you had before) was there ... I know ... that's the way I did it ... if you went through the custom install and opted out of the information exchange thingies and aren't using Cortana.

OriginalGriff14-Aug-15 5:40

14-Aug-15 5:40

That's what I did. Followed the privacy suggestions here: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.single.html[^]

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Rage14-Aug-15 2:19

Rage

14-Aug-15 2:19

Look at my above post, it is seemingly related to OneDrive.