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I am BUMMED! 
I believe I will listen to The Hammer on the way home tonight.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Lemmy
I read in a guitar magazine some time ago that Lemmy's psychiatrist once asked Lemmy why he couldn't remember to take his meds at the prescribed time and then went on to pose a lemma of sorts stating that there must be some way we can help him (you) remember.
And Lemmy's reply was that the meds didn't do anything so there was nothing memorable about taking them.
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Saw Phil play with Motorhead in 1981
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So as some of you know I've decided to blog about maths to start liking it and to understand it.
I just spent an entire evening finishing an article on algebra (third article already) and I liked it.
And the worst part is I've been looking forward to it all day...
I can't say if my plan is working or if I'm losing my mind (or maybe they're the same) 
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The Maths can be very addictive once you find you're good at it.
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That is an excellent learning strategy. I wish I had such discipline. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: I wish I had such discipline
I usually haven't when it comes to maths! 
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Great!
I've also started creating videos on Math from Nov 1 onward. The text for these videos is mostly in English, though the explanations are in my language Kannada. (Nov 1 is a significant date marking the formation of my state Karnataka in India).
Planning to create/upload about one video of about 10-12 mins every day (Youtube limit is 15 minutes for the free account). Topic for now is Vector Calculus for the First Year Engineering Curriculum.
Search for 'Bengloor Bhoopa Youtube' to go there, Video 8 being a representative sample.
Hopefully these are different from those of the Khan Academy.
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I can't tell apart the Kannada from the maths!
Awesome though
Keep up the good work!
I'm aiming for a blog post each week 
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Sander Rossel wrote: maths
Well, comparing with your "Part 1" post, you seem to be off to a good start.
Do you mind if I ask what sort of degree do you have? I could't find anything on your blog. But surely, if maths is your enemy, you are not an engineer. 
I ain't got no signature.
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I have a Bachelor degree in Common Arts and Cultural Sciences and a Masters degree in Media and Journalism.
And yes, I am very much an engineer! 
I decided to get a degree in the software field though, which, unfortunately, has lots of maths involved.
I rarely need maths in my day to day programming and if I do it's rarely more than a percentage, a div, reminder, that sort of simple stuff.
Maths is one of the few things I'm really very bad at.
And I only decided to get that degree because no matter how good an engineer you are some people will never take you serious if you don't have a degree in the field 
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Programming is maths.
It is almost nothing but having values, working out other values, doing things determined by those values.
Pure, undiluted maths.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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An excerpt taken from my first maths blog:
Sander Rossel wrote: When asking programmers about maths you’ll find two kinds of people, those who say you don’t need maths to be a good programmer and those who say maths is essential. Personally I think both are true. [...] For now, let’s put it this way: knowing a thing or two about maths gives you an edge as a programmer!
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That's not what I mean at all.
Those who think they don't need maths as a programmer think that maths is nothing more than A+B=C and variations upon that theme.
They don't know what maths is.
You don't need maths for programming, programming is maths.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Alright, let me fill in the [...] from my previous excerpt
Sander Rossel wrote: For some applications and industries you really don’t need advanced maths, but go into robotics, machine learning, statistics, or that kind of thing and you’re going to need maths, lots of it. And whether you need it or not, computers, programming languages and databases all wouldn’t exist without maths.
Sure, a function is a mathematical thing, just like collections, graphs, (bool) logic and what have you.
But to actually write a function or use a list you don't need the maths theory that goes behind it
To me it used to be somehow 'common knowledge' until I took up a book on maths
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Quote: I rarely need maths in my day to day programming
Was the bit I was originally replying to (on my phone so no quote).
Understanding the theory behind the maths you are using or not doesn't mean you are not using that maths.
Lots of people don't understand the biological theory behind getting someone pregnant, but they still manage to execute the process.
I like it when people say they haven't needed or used algebra since they were forced to learn it at school. I ask them if they've ever cooked a joint of meat. The cooking time is a fixed period of time multiplied by the weight of the joint plus an additional period of time depending on how well you want the joint done.
Or (for roast beef (cooked medium) for example) t = (25 * w) + 25 where t is the cooking time and w is the weight in pounds.
They're solving that equation each time they cook, whether they realise it or not.
You think you don't need maths in your day to day programming, I say that you are using maths, just without thinking about it or probably even realising it.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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That's an interesting point of view and I can only agree with you.
chriselst wrote: You think you don't need maths in your day to day programming, I say that you are using maths, just without thinking about it or probably even realising it.
The real question is if you need to thoroughly study it (to be a good programmer)
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Sander Rossel wrote: The real question is if you need to thoroughly study it (to be a good programmer)
Not at all.
I'm not even sure that studying maths would make you a better programmer (aside from the specific aspects of maths and specialty areas of programming you mentioned earlier).
Perhaps programming makes you a better mathematician?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: Not at all.
I'm not even sure that studying maths would make you a better programmer (aside from the specific aspects of maths and specialty areas of programming you mentioned earlier).
We agree again!
chriselst wrote: Perhaps programming makes you a better mathematician?
I speak from experience, nope!
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Don't worry, when I was a simple student, thus attending all the courses, we began starting making math puns about two weeks after the beginning of the classes. In a couple of months we were actually discussing math in our coffee/cigarette pauses.
Engineering can be bad for your health.
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den2k88 wrote: we began starting making math puns
I already do that, but I still can't stand maths
den2k88 wrote: we were actually discussing math in our coffee/cigarette pauses
That's why I don't take those pauses
I'm not taking classes.
I study at the Open University so I do everything alone, from home, in the evening hours...
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Sander Rossel wrote: I study at the Open University so I do everything alone, from home, in the evening hours...
Which is basically what I'm doing now that I work full time. Or should I say, what I'm NOT doing... being a commuter and having a (small, but size doesn't matter) household really sucks up all the time, attention and energy I have available. You have all my respect
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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den2k88 wrote: Or should I say, what I'm NOT doing...
Sounds all too familiar!
I did one exam in the past year... 
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Math can be a lot of fun. It helps me to earn a lot of money, master my finances with a big surplus and even impress experienced craftsman. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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