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The question is: how much do you trust MS to get it right?
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That's why I'm waiting to know that it is working (at least for others).
If it does not work, it requires a re-install and activation of Windows 7 and upgrading that
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Is AOMEI a general recommendation?
I always used Ghost in the old times, but I don't have access to it anymore.
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I like it - it's free, it works well, and it does compressed image backups that you can load as virtual drives for individual file restores which is the best of both worlds. It also stores the images as individual files (albeit big files) which means you can copy them to NAS, keep multiple images of several PC's on one backup drive, and so forth. It's also got a nice UI that I find easy to navigate, and creates Win PE bootable images for complete restores. Works for me...
Compared to MS's attempt, it's Win 7 compared to DOS 6...
* No, I don't work for them, get paid by them, or get any gifts to say this. Unfortunately *
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Update: The latest version of AOMEI appears to have gone all Windows 10 - the UI is the same, but twice the size!
But I fixed it: Menu...Settings...Other, "Enable Large Window Mode" tick. "OK". Restart now.
Menu...Settings...Other, "Enable Large Window Mode" untick. "OK". Restart now.
Much better!
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Before you do anything, make sure your current system has been activated. Mine wasn't and I didn't realise it. I bought it installed on a new machine I had built and assumed it was pukka. When I tried to install the ISO, it wouldn't. I was then left with having to buy a legitimate copy just to get Win10 installed.
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I just upgraded one 4 year old dell Inspiron & one 3 year old Lenovo thinkpad mid November without any issues & they are working fine. These are home use machines though.
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My machine was 4 years old.
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Maybe you should ask for the age of the users instead.
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I have two systems, both of which I upgraded to Windows 10 without any serious problems. The only issues were to do with versions of software that did not recognise Windows 10. Shuttle XPC compact system purchased October 2005, Dell Inspiron laptop purchased October 2006. Both are now running without probems.
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Quote: running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not. If it runs Win7 why upgrade? I am writing this on Win10 (upraded from 8) and find it little different to Win7 (mind you I run Firefox & Thunderbird (never really trusted Outlook since I got a virus and Outlook turned off the Virus killer!)) so I can't comment on Edge or Mail. The only reason I ended up with 8 was my XP box died and I couldn't get a 7 box with the speed I needed!
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Mail is a pile of poo - it doesn't event register itself properly as the mail application (because it's a "Metro" app and they don't play nice with desktop ones). So you can right click an image or file, and select "Send to...Mail recipient" and it does a total of nothing. "Forward to" seems to disappear on a regular basis as well...
Install Windows Live Mail (from the Windows Essentials download pack) and you get a much better email client that works like Outlook Express used to, only better. Only gripe is that it doesn't show a tray icon for "new mail".
Edge is IE for win 10 - run once, install something better, and then ignore it for ever more!
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I'll go along with that. After trying Edge for a week, I've installed Internet Explorer from Win8; much better. And after trying the Mail app, I've installed Windows Live Mail. Again, much better.
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I upgraded my Win8.1 laptop to Win10.
Saw no real difference (obviously).
I upgraded an old laptop to Win10 from Win7 and honestly again, there really aren't any features that you get from Win10. The old win7 laptop seemed to perform a bit better after installing win10 -- maybe related to using the disk more efficiently?
My point: I agree with you -- Win7 is good enough Win8 nor Win10 get you much, except being current.
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Other than a weird error[^] (easily fixed) all went fine, and Windows 10 is working as expected.
4, 5 years old home made i5/4gig/regular HDD/regular GPU (and no exotic hardware/peripheral)
Remember that people like to bitchcomplain.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I am on the verge of reinstalling Win7 on a 6 year old desktop. So, why not just go with the hive and go with the latest and greatest? Because I like 7 better than 10. I am familiar/comfortable and productive with it. I have it on a new laptop, and don't see enough new features that make it worthwhile...I don't need Cortana, Edge, or that big ugly start menu!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: big ugly start menu!
Funny that you said that since both my youngest daughter and I find the Windows 8.x start screen much more usable than that [Windows 10] "menu". The white on black jump lists also annoyed the crap out of me.
Oh, and Edge is atrociously bad.
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I've successfully upgraded a celeron-based laptop (Toshiba) which was at least 5 years old.
Actually, once Win10 was installed the computer perfomed better than it previously did under win7 -- I don't have actual perf stats, but just seemed better from a user-perspective.
Good luck.
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I'm not sure if age is a factor. I upgraded almost 5 years Lenovo Yoga two weeks back with no problem, well sort of. Initially I kept getting errors after errors. After some googling and looking up on MS site, it turned out to be AV related. I disabled Windows Defendor and it completed with no hiccups.
With that been said, I won't rule age out
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I upgraded my 4 year old home system to Windows 10. It worked through the first reboot and then got increasingly worse until it wouldn't boot at all. I put Windows 8.1 on and it works fine (yes, I'm one of those who actually likes 8.1) and is slightly more stable than Windows 7 was on that box.
My oldest daughter upgraded to windows 10 on her six year old Inspiron (which she inherited from her sister) and it apparently went perfect. And she likes it.
My ex-wife's Inspiron laptop, however, is reported to have serious problems with Windows 10--IIRC, after booting, you have to close it, let it sleep and then open and wake it. She chose not to try it, though I think it would help her laptop performance if it fully worked.
My two sons and youngest daughter all chose to not upgrade. The sons because they don't want to deal with it and the daughter because she didn't like it (after trying it out at Best Buy on the same Asus laptop which she has.)
The Windows 8.x and 10 kernels are very good and leaner than Windows 7, but peripheral support for Windows 10 seems rather inconsistent.
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It's not the age of the hardware itself, its the length of time the OS its currently on has had time to rot.
Windows 10 will be fine on a fresh install, its just less likely on a upgrade install, as it wont be able to undo all the abuse you've been giving it for 5 years.
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I'm running a 7 year-old ACER laptop that started life with Windows Vista. I upgraded to Windows 7, and then to Windows 10. The only problem upgrading to 10 was a driver in my anti-virus package that needed an update, and my employer's VPN app no longer works. Both of these issues are the responsibility of the application creator and not Windows 10. I have a fairly spartan machine: Office, several versions of Visual Studio, Chrome, Thunderbird, and VirtualBox are my principal big-ticket applications. I don't run games or any apps with complex driver requirements.
I've noticed through 30 years of Windows upgrades that the people who have the most problems are the ones who, for whatever reason, have a lot of complicated applications installed. Photoshop, DBMS's, non-Microsoft IDE's, and custom hardware to name a few. I don't think it's realistic to expect a pain-free upgrade in that case. It's probably more prudent to do a clean install and then re-install each application, one by one, and check your stability after each install. While it's painful, it's probably more productive to do it that way than searching for the proverbial needle in a haystack after an in-place upgrade.
Software Zen: delete this;
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With a 5 year old computer.
You are probable looking to upgrade in 2-3 years MAX.
If there was EVER a reason to wait. You Found it!
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The only upgrade to Win 10 that I have done is on a VMWare Fusion VM running on a Mac mini (Late 2012). No problems whatsoever that I'm aware of, but then I've probably only spent an hour total using it since I upgraded in August, since I rarely have a use for Windows Desktop. I have both Windows Server 2008R2 and 2012 VM's that I run much more often since I need to be able to develop/test against Active Directory.
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I successfully upgraded a 5 year old Dell XPS from Win7 to 10. Granted it's my gaming rig so the hardware was top of the line when I got it. It also doesn't have all the tools and apps my Dev machine does so I avoided those common pitfalls. I also upgraded two other Win 8.1 devices (one for the wife one for the kids) that were less than a year old and had no problems either. My parents upgraded a 2 year old desktop from 7 to 10 and the only issue they had was an ancient printer (ancient being about 4 years old) that didn't have drivers. HP was nice enough to point us to a driver for a newer printer that was Win10 compatible and worked with their printer. The biggest issue I've seen has been older hardware not being compatible and causing issues (and it's usually laptop hardware).
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