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or the recent curious fellow in the lounge.
To vote with no response is to follow the way of the coward.
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Curious fellow???
seike==sick
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I'm just gonna bounce ideas off of you Chris (and anyone else). Let me know if its doable.
In-Message Polling
Enhance the posting system so that we can create a poll which will allow users to vote within the message and then view the results. I don't know how your forum message database is setup, but let me explain in more detail.
new db message table entries:
poll_id = foreign key to a new message_poll table
if null, then its not a poll
message_poll table:
poll_id = long (primary key)
question = string
answer1 - 5 = string
answer_votes1 - 5 = long
On the new message page, if they say its a poll, replace the message's Text box with a question box, and 5 answer boxes.
When you submit, it will display the message question followed by up to 5 radio buttons or links for each answer. When the radio buttons or links are clicked, the answer_votes* column for that answer will be incremented.
The current results would be shown on the message like a bar chart:
1) ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 85%
2) ]]]]]] 15%
If they want to see their vote in the results, they have to refresh like they do with message voting.
Collaborative Projects Page
List all current collaborative projects and links to a prject page.
Collaborative Project Page (not an article)
This should be a project management area where project members can discuss issues and ideas, checkin/checkout code, submit documentation, and check the status of the project. Non-members can participate in any "open" discussions, request to join the team, view screen shots or download betas.
This will be the home page for the project where non-members can read design documents and the status of the project. Only project members can work on the project or participate in "closed" discussions so the project will need to have different levels of security for the members. Only project leaders or their designates can update this page and its security settings.
I realize that last suggestion is big, but it would be nice to have if collaboration is really going to work well. I'm sure I'll come up with more, and if you want to bounce your own ideas off of me, I'd be glad to hear them.
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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In message polling:
This is probably not do-able in any reasonable time at the moment. An alternative is user-submitted polls within projects. See below.
Collaborative Projects Page:
Easy once I sort out the database schema
Collaborative Project Page
Not actually that hard. It would have to allow user submitted polls, which could then be linked to within messages (an alternative to in-message polls). Setting up a private board is already possible. Check in/out will require source control, either manually (one member deals with it) or via CVS. The overall format would be similar to an article but would be marked as a project and would then appear in the Projects page.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
user submitted polls, which could then be linked to within messages
Not sure what you mean. Would it be similar to the Code Project weekly polls which have a message thread below it? We'll need to be able to setup multiple polls and I think we would need to restrict who could create one of these for a project as well.
Source control:
Could we just keep track of who has it "checked out" and only allow that member to update the source file? Of course, the project leader must be able to uncheckout anything. That way we wouldn't need cvs unless you think it would be easy to add it in.
Chris Maunder wrote:
The overall format would be similar to an article but would be marked as a project and would then appear in the Projects page.
Sounds good, but I think it should have project management areas as well. But there should be an article type layout where people can read what the project is all about.
Are you going to restrict project creation somehow or will anyone be able to create one (like articles)?
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Jason Henderson wrote:
Would it be similar to the Code Project weekly polls
yup
Jason Henderson wrote:
Are you going to restrict project creation somehow or will anyone be able to create one (like articles)?
I imagine I'll let anyone open a new project. The rating system will be in place, as well as a count of the number of members involved and we'll be able to see when it was last updated. Obviously it will be easy enough to nuke inactive or poor quality projects.
I should warn you though that my free time is a little non-existant at the moment, and for the next few days I will be in Dallas at TechEd. All work on this will be done on the cheap, so to speak, but I think there's enough infrastructure already that this shouldn't actually hold back anyone.
Another reason that time is slim at the moment (and no, it's got nothing to do with the time cube) is because we're working again on a project we let slide about a year ago. More on that later.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
yup
that's cool. as long as we can have simultaneous polls. 
Chris Maunder wrote:
I imagine I'll let anyone open a new project. The rating system will be in place, as well as a count of the number of members involved and we'll be able to see when it was last updated. Obviously it will be easy enough to nuke inactive or poor quality projects.
OK by me. I'd just hate for about 20 projects to spring up on the first day, but there's nothing we can do about that.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I should warn you though that my free time is a little non-existant at the moment, and for the next few days I will be in Dallas at TechEd. All work on this will be done on the cheap, so to speak, but I think there's enough infrastructure already that this shouldn't actually hold back anyone.
We all know its a work in progress and we'll use anything you can give us. I may be able to find some "under construction" graphics for you to use. Like maybe an animated gif of a sign of a man digging.  
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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I don't know if you've been following CPP lately, but I think we're getting very close to a point where we're ready to startup our projects.
Can you give me an idea of where you're at with this? If you think its going to be a while before these changes can be made, then perhaps we should use the existing article format. I am at your mercy at the moment.
3 Things I think we definitely need for projects:
1) the ability to add or remove authors from a project
2) creation of polls as discussed earlier
3) more than one message area
thanks Chris
Jason Henderson latest CPP news
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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And, of course, a new article category - shouldn't be too hard. 
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
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There is already a Code Project Projects category we could use. 
Jason Henderson latest CPP news
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Is there a way we can setup mailing lists for CPP? At least so project leaders can email all of their team members.
let me know.
thanks
Jason Henderson latest CPP news
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Since this will have CPs name plastered all over it, maybe we need to facilitate code review somehow. Maybe we can have a separate message section for this where team members must add a comment of their code changes and a request for a review of their code. It would be nice to have this like Question Time where the last few posts are visible on the main page.
Also, would it be possible to have multiple "Question Times" on a project page? One each for Code Review, Latest Polls, Latest discussion threads.
I'm not going to suggest a layout to you since that's your job, but having all of this available on the project page would be great. I wish I could show you visually what I mean, but I think I see a project as multiple web pages with a main project page linking them all up. How do you envision it?
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Unsing Opera, the forum tells me that Dynamic view is unavailable.
Although I don't know the exact D-HTML DOM-structure of Opera, I guess that it would match 1:1 to the one in Internet-Explorer.
So It would be easy for Chris to just allow the Dynamic view for Opera, without changing the D-HTML code at all?
Am I correct?
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Last time I checked it didnt work in opera.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I just did some Opera testing and it doesn't want to play nice.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Uwe Keim wrote:
I guess that it would match 1:1 to the one in Internet-Explorer
Don't we wish. Opera is very good at HTML and CSS, but rather poor at DOM. The upcoming release of Opera apparently will address this, but till then to get func. like that working in Opera requires Opera specific code.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Your using Opera?
Regards,
Brian Dela
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Brian Delahunty wrote:
Your using Opera?
No but I know these things. Have to know them, part of the job
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Real geeks build their own real-world interfaces. In fact from the point of "employability" any geek should know both.
Why don't we add a topic about electronic hardware (I do not talk about adding memory to your computer), I mean real electronics interfaced to the computer.
Daniela
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The options for viewing threads are good. But the recent activity surrounding a CodeProject group collaboration have really pointed out a weakness in the thread views.
CP could greatly benefit from having a treeview style thread view that would allow someone to view a certain message depth.
Something like
Topic #1
Topic #2
Topic #3
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Then expand one level
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Topic #1
Reply #a to Topic #1
Reply #b to Topic #1
Topic #2
Reply #a to Topic #2
Reply #b to Topic #2
Topic #3
Reply #a to Topic #3
Reply #b to Topic #3
.
Then expand one level
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Topic #1
Reply #a to Topic #1
Reply #i Reply #a to Topic #1
Reply #ii Reply #a to Topic #1
Reply #b to Topic #1
Reply #i Reply #b to Topic #1
Reply #ii Reply #b to Topic #1
Topic #2
Reply #a to Topic #2
Reply #b to Topic #2
Topic #3
Reply #a to Topic #3
Reply #b to Topic #3
Waddayathink?
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I agree. A cross between the Threaded and Dynamic views perhaps.
- Shog9 -
I'd show a smile but I'm too weak
I'd share with you, could I only speak
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Good idea!
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
"An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
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Hello,
I apologise from the outset for cross-posting, but I didn't see any recent activity on behalf of the people running codeproject in the general discussion forum - and I think it's a point worth considering.
I propose that it would be great in the future if people included a .mak file as part of any code submission. Like hundreds of thousands of others, our company has yet to fork out for the newest Visual Studio release - thus the solution files are no good to us, as we are still working with 6.
I think .mak files are used by a variety of IDEs and compilers - not just the MS ones. I know this site seems to be mostly MS oriented and thus encouraging upgrades etc, but I think the key objective is to spread knowledge - and this simple export could help everyone - despite their version or type of compiler.
Cheers,
Paul
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