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You only need to incarcerate the ones that watch their children die, without getting professional help. Cannot be that many of them.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Cannot be that many of them
and reducing.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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No bacon? It was obviously doomed to fail.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Dang, can they get a Darwin Award?
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Read the rules. Killing someone else (even your own offspring) does not qualify.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Dang! missed the small print, again 
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And the 'scientist' that started the Anti-Vaxxer movement even admitted he falsified the results and much of his study. And yet people don't get that the data they use to prove their point is ^€%**&$@& FAKE! WAKE UP, IDIOTS!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: to prove their point is ^€%**&$@& FAKE! WAKE UP, IDIOTS!
Slow down trigger. Maybe you are speaking about this single incident but it feels like you are referring to overall trust in doctors vs. self-medicating.
My son, when 2 years old or so, got ear infections. The doctor said nothing could be done, we had to operate. Really? That doesn't sound right. In all the history of man what did they do before doctors operated. So, we got a second opinion. Same thing. So, a little research on our own and found out that garlic oil will clear ear infections. Took kid back to doctor to check and sure enough, ear infection gone. Simple.
So, don't knock nature if you haven't tried it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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My son was having ear infections that blocked his hearing to the extent that you had to speak very loudly. ENT guy gave antibiotics and it cleared up in a couple of days. The story has several more levels, but the guy had only one thing on his mind: Surgery. Even though he was due to outgrow the problem in a year or so. They tried to panic us about burst eardrums as a potential outcome.
Paying attention to reality, I new that ear infections in kids have been around a long time and I never heard of a single case of a burst eardrum from the pressure. Still - it was scary. Since he was a clever kid, we showed him where the antihistamines were, for his use, if he starts to have any discomfort that he knew led to ear-aches. Problem solved, sans surgery. In general, however, I wanted them to use their immune system - but only so long as there was no danger. The Darwin Award candidates in question really needed to accept that their treatment was making things no better and the illness was progressing. My handling included the observation that medications cleared the symptoms immediately and, since it was having a serious effect on his hearing, something needed to be done. But cutting a hole in his eardrum was not one of them.*
Your solution, by the way, with Garlic oil, works for a very good reason: Garlic has been found to contain natural antibiotics by 'real' scientists. Oregano, too, but the amount you'd need to eat for a useful effect was not really feasible. Deodorized garlic oil is supposed to be worthless.
* It has since been found that kids who have had tubes in their ears fare no better than those who don't - so, aside from making lots of money, it was almost always useless.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Garlic has been found to contain natural antibiotics by 'real' scientists.
Actually, it's been known for millennia, long before "scientists" discovered it. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yup - that's why they looked at it. Similarly, cranberry juice for urinary tract infections also works for specific (and verified) reasons.
The reason I mention it is that there are countless home/herbal remedies. Some of them work. Some of them, I'd even venture to say most of them, don't. The 30% effective placebo effect, however, creates an anecdotal legacy. In the USA, in particular, claims for herbal remedies have to be proven NEITHER safe NOR effective - so long as they simply call them a supplement. They can only be stopped if they're found to be dangerous. They make $Billions, and even big pharmacopeia gets in on the deal. (Echinacea, for all it's hype, was found no better than placebo - but many drug companies produced their version of the supplement whilst it was in fashion).
It's a shame there's so much hype as nature's pharmacy is rich with medications.
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It's a big business. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm not knocking self-medicating, as I know there are numerous home remedies that actually work (I have used some of them), I am just knocking the Anti Vaxxer movement, which is a cult of complete idiots using fake data to prove things.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: which is a cult of complete idiots
That's pretty judgemental.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I know some of them. Numerous deaths and various other life long issues (brain damage, hearing/eyesight loss, etc.) caused by their refusal to vaccinate their children.
And who else would use data that was proved to be fake?
What would you call them? Hmmmmmmmm?
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: other life long issues (brain damage,
Brisingr Aerowing wrote: And who else would use data that was proved to be fake?
Well, for starters, most aren't using data that is fake. I know several kids that got brain damage of some kind from getting vaccinations. That's called real data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: I know several kids that got brain damage of some kind from getting vaccinations.
No. You don't! There are around 65 verified cases of brain infections or neurological conditions following (but not necessarily caused by) one of the 10 million vaccinations carried out annually in the United States. And not all of these result in permanent or lasting damage. The chances that you know even one child who has permanent brain damage in which vaccination is implicated is therefore vanishingly small (considerably less than the likelihood that you know someone struck by lightning). The chances that you know two is as near zero as makes no difference (something like having the winning numbers in every state lottery in the country).
I have no doubt that you know several parents who put two and two together to make seven, believe anything they're told by anybody other than an actual qualified medical professional or statistician, and, most importantly, just love to tell other people how to look after their children. But that's really not the same thing.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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9082365 wrote: No. You don't!
 OK. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Quote: believe anything they're told by anybody
The Internet is rife with trolls who spread unscientific bs about healthcare, in order to scare people. Most of their "data" is fake and with no scientific grounds. I have relatives who willingly swallow the tripe sprouted by these individuals. It's unbelievable what these relatives do to themselves and their kids, because they trust the trolls more than the medical profession.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Ok. But why are we getting upset about this 4 years after it happened?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Because it is in the news now as they are finally going to court.
veni bibi saltavi
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Ah! That'll be the right to an expedient trial they're always going on about then. 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: water with maple syrup, juice with frozen berries and finally a mixture of apple cider vinegar, horse radish root, hot peppers, mashed onion, garlic and ginger root
That's where they went wrong.
They should have relied on prayer.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Reminds me of Tim Minchin's Storm[^]:
Quote:
By definition, I begin
Alternative Medicine, I continue,
Has either not been proved to work,
Or been proved not to work.
Do you know what they call alternative medicine
That's been proved to work?
Medicine.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Not so long ago, CSS struck me with its demonic spells (well the blame goes to mickeysoft)
Though I managed to kill it and bury it.
And this time..
Looks like the demon has come back to haunt my layout from the dead.
Rising from the graveyard where I tried to bury it (aka CSS flexbox)
My buttons are suddenly top-aligned. And I'm getting no clue why. Interstingly, I have not touched my CSS in any way since my last demon slaying.
Git diff has just confirmed that.
So what ghost does this! -_-
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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