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Dear Redacted,
I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position.
I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it.
I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior.
While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them.
Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science.
I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family.
sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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I guess other candidates have not yet been excluded... But what's the story on the $100-bill?
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megaadam wrote: what's the story on the $100-bill?
In case ye not spake tongue-in-cheek: [^]
cheers, Bill
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Would I trust him? Probably not. It smacks too much of an afterthought on his way home: "Oh carp! It was a test! What do I do?"
Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen. Exactly the same as when you remove goods from a shop, they are stolen the second you step outside. "Intent" isn't the point here - actions are.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen.
Don't let a lawyer hear you say that! Even I could find a dozen precedents to the contrary!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen
Wrong. It's "found". I would have turned it in after the code task and told the receptionist that $50/hour ain't gonna cut it, and if someone wants to seriously negotiate salary, they have my number.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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And BTW, not connecting the computer to the internet is a travesty, since we all know that answers are found there. You could easily monitor what they do online, not to mention restrict access to google, cp, and stackoverflow.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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No, no, no. Allow CP. Monitor the traffic being sent and if Q and A is accessed with "send codez URGENT URGENTZZZZ", you know to rather move on to the next candidate.
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No. Especially if 4 was thinking the $100 to a distraction from the very first moment, he should no touch it...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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to go into your story:
I would go for the one who noticed, but kept his head focused on the job and only told afterwards, or the one who did not notice.
The one who turned it in immediately was maybe ethical, but in my opinion he had other things to do and since that bill was obviously there for some time, that task was not urgent. Sounds to me like he wanted to appear "special".
The one who took it is plainly a thief whatever he may say. The money is not his to donate, is it? Even if he is not lying on his email, clearly he did not think the 100$ bill was important enough to someone else and he "forgot" about it? It is unethical any which way you look at it. (and I would reply this to him as well)
My scenario would have been: pick it up and put it (clearly visible) next to me on the desk. Give it to the interviewer when he comes back.
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Heh heh heh...
Set it on fire, watch it burn, and walk out. The employer failed the not-a-bunch-of-jerks test.
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Can be a bit tricky to make, but I think I got a fool proof and quick method.
half in half plain oil and olive oil, salt, vinegar, garlic clove. Put it in a jam jar and blend it with one of those stab mixers till its a creamy emulsion.
Put egg yolk in a bowl and whisk in the oil emulsion.
It goes thick very quickly, you can add the emulsion quickly, and it doesn't split. Takes about 1 or 2 minutes to make.
I think the key is that the oil is already broken down into minute globules by zizzing it up with the vinegar garlic and salt, so it just mixes into the egg yolk without having to laboriously whisk it to do this.
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That's got to be worth a try - I used the Monica Galetti recipe from Masterchef last time, and gawd knows how she got it made so quick! I was still whisking after 15 minutes, and I gave up on the hand whisk after two!
It was at that point I decided "sod it - Hellmann's in a jar is ok after all"... 
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Yet an open hand whisk is what you have to use, god knows why, but whenever I used and electric one it split.
But this method is so far 100% reliable and takes 1 minute of whisking. Its that fast.
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I use a frappe machine. The only danger is that it splits very suddenly, so you've got to watch it like a hawk.
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Ok, so that's like a stab mixer we have in Europe. Try making an emulsion out of the oil, vinegar salt and garlic first, then add it to the eggs. I think the fact that the oil is already in tiny globules makes it almost impossible to split. You can literally whisk it into the yolk in 30 seconds. Its that fast. And it goes solid.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: that's like a stab mixer we have in Europe
Um, which part of "the rest of the world" do you think England and the Netherlands are in?
When you said "stab mixer", I didn't realise that you meant hand/plunging/soup blender.
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How do I know you aren't in the US? Café Frappe sounds American and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter).
"stab mixer" I think its a German term originally. Yeah:
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The first ones in the UI I guess came fro Germany, anyway, that's then name I know them by from the 90s.
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I didn't say "Café Frappe", which is Greek; I said "frappe", which is Italian, and doesn't have coffee in it.
Yup. Pretty bloody obvious I'm a yank, innit?
Oh, and a frappe machine bears no resemblance whatsoever to a soup blender.
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Oh, you mean the milkshake called a 'frappe', not a 'café frappé' with the accent.
Frappe | Define Frappe at Dictionary.com[^]
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frappe
[frap]
Spell Syllables
Word Origin
noun, Northeastern U.S. (chiefly Eastern New England) .
1.
a milkshake made with ice cream. "
Sure you aren't a Yank? 
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Wow!
I know that you yanks invented the English language 2000 years before the Americas were discovered, but I was unaware that you'd invented Italian, too!
Must have been at the same time that you invented the pizza.
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Ok, you need setting straight here:
1) I am English, and live in France.
2) Café frappé is French, not Greek. Bien qu'en France le café frappé soit nettement plus ancien, et qu'on en retrouve des recettes dès 1897 et 1932, la variante grecque qui utilise du café instantané fut mise au point en 1957 par International Trade Fair in Thessaloniki4. [^] In France, here in the south, its an expresso poured over crushed ice. That's the 'frapper' bit, it means to 'hit' in French. The Greeks obviously copied it and used instant coffe, god knows why.
As usual Mark, you turn into a jackass after a few posts. Why you have to do this I don't know, but you must have some serious issues to work out.
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Yeah, right[^]
Any idiot can google. A lounge is a place where you say what you know (or believe) to be true, and discuss opinions, not google in a desperate effort to ***win*** what you immediately turn into an argument by doing so.
Why do so many developers find it hard to play nicely with the other kids?
There ain't no winning in life, and there's nothing to win on message boards. Just try to remember that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Its not a desperate google to *win*, its a self evident fact from living in France for 15 years and speaking the language: Frappé is French, and as I showed you Café Frappé recipes from France predate the Greek copy by over a century.
Quote how you managed to degenerate a thread abut making mayonnaise into a personal argument says a lot about you Mark. You have a habit of doing this, your tone is aggressive and confrontationary, and the rest of your post describes you very well.
My advice. Stop being such a douche and learn to live with people.
modified 17-Apr-16 3:53am.
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No. The French have "frappe", and it's just espresso (Italian) coffee over ice -- crushed ice, as you go further south and into Italy.
And don't start claiming great or lengthy knowledge on the subject. To quote your first mention: "Café Frappe sounds American". You then googled (badly, because you got all incorrect results).
If you want a trollish google fight, take it elsewhere.
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