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Bush screwed up the economy with his non-enforcement of the financial regulations.
He screwed up much of the world with the lying excuse to attack Iraq.
But maybe he shouldn't be blamed - he had nothing to do with running the country.
And congress' ruling party publicly and proudly proclaimed their intent to obstruct everything. So - yeah - blaming them's pretty reasonable.
Obama's responsible (where his powers reside) in the creating of a foreign policy that is (in my opinion) screwed up. "kumbaya" just doesn't work. The rest of his mess is details resulting from not showing the will to say "Up Yours" when "Kumbaya" didn't work. One possible thing good that could come of some of this: the world should start to chip in more of the cost, in blood and treasure, for all of the policing they want done. If his policy has anything like a bit of a silver lining it would be to get the EU, Japan, &etc. to pay some of the cost of the stability from which they so richly profit.
Oh yes - his Iran deal sucks mightily - but he's in cahoots with the EU on that. A pox on the whole lot of them.
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Nothing got done when the democrats control the senate either.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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Actually, in the past, things got done when either party controlled the senate. They even did this weird-ass thing called negotiation and compromise.
In this particular case, my point and anger is not that nothing was done because of deadlock during negotiations but rather a deliberate desire to (unsuccessfully) prevent Obama's re-election. It was not for the good of the nation but the good of their party that was their concern - and national woes, in the imaginings of their broken minds, played into their hands.
A minority subset of the republican party hijacked the party and attempted to hijack the entire government - and with Koch brothers money, they got halfway there.
There's a ton of stuff I dislike about the Obama version of government but I also know where the real damage to the nation arose. He was hardly given a chance to screw things up!
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this is sheer dribble... off to the soapbox with you. I find it amazing how you jump down peoples' throats for oversimplifying things then you do the same damn thing. I have no idea who you think hijacked the "Republican Party" but it sure as hell wasn't a bunch of Bible thumpers. That has got to be one of the most bigoted things I've ever seen uttered here.
Normally you make rational statements. No more cool-aid for you sir.
As for getting things done, if the car is going off the cliff in a mile or two, compromise is out of the question.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: That has got to be one of the most bigoted things I've ever seen uttered here.
No - the religious right (as they're called) took their toll on the GOP when they made their faith's anti-abortion stand a virtual litmus test for the party.
The other minority horror is the "Tea Party" who's elected representatives, as a voting block, have taken over their party and, by proxy, an attempt to take over much of the government. Or - more correctly, big money buys them their seats (Koch Brothers) and so the 'anti-insiders' are run by the biggest insiders of all.
As for the 'economy' car - those who sent it careening towards the cliff by their anti-regulatory stand, are busy pointing every which way with the blame - but it's the same pattern as the S&L disaster: no regulation and the thugs rape the economy (again).
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Again, the most selective facts from you. One example: the banking crisis was precipitated by the first Clinton who came up with the idea that if you gave loans to people who could not pay them back, it would help them. The crisis built throughout Clinton's 8 years. When Bush came in, he tried to stop what was going on with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to no avail - Chris Todd and Barney Frank blocked every single attempt to stop what was going on.
Saying it was Bush's fault - jeesh. Just keep digging.
As for your "religious right" blah, blah, blah, the same brush slings to your side as well.
Koch Brothers vs. Soros, and on it goes. Your blind with your bigotry.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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charlieg wrote: e first Clinton who came up with the idea that if you gave loans to people who could not pay them back, i
WRONG!
It was to make loans easier - but predatory loans were still illegal. That, of course, assumes that someone in government was watching. During the Shrub's tenure, money was piling in to the big banks and so nothing was done. Then they packaged them, sold the bundled junk to get more money to do it again: a pyramid scheme allowed by the anti-government-regulation crowd. Note, too, that the loans were made by local mortgage brokers (not Wall Street, but Main Street, despite the sloganism). They talked people into loans they should make and couldn't maintain. That was never part of any law.
Quote: Often, banks would offload this risk to insurance companies or other counterparties through credit default swaps, making their actual risk exposures extremely difficult for investors and creditors to discern.[35]
from Wikipedia lookup of Fannie May - scroll down to "Mortgage Chrisis from Late 2007"
Quote: It could have been prevented, except:
In the Wiki paragraph above that cited above, you'll notice how Bush opposed legislation that was designed to fix a problem:
Quote: "The regulatory regime envisioned by H.R. 1461 is considerably weaker than that which governs other large, complex financial institutions."
a problem, in his anti-regulatory mindset, should not be fixed.
We paid the price. Wall Street and Main Street brokers kept the money.
As for my gripe with the religious right? I don't follow their faith and I'd consider using some second amendment rights to protect my first amendment rights. Remember the hell they created with prohibition of alcohol? They're just an American version of the Taliban.
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DoD answers to Congress (or at least it should).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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United States Department of Defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^]
If we can trust Wikipedia... the DOD is an executive branch department controlled directly by the Secretary of Defense (an appointed cabinet level position) who answers directly to the president.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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But only congress can declare war and allocate money for defense, so ultimately, the DoD answers to congress.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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Surely any company that bits for a contract would expect to recruit staff if required after they win the contract, not have it all in place for the bid unless it can be absorbed by current staffing levels?
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Sure, but our MoD wouldn't accept an offer from an "economically disadvantaged" company. They require documentation of longevity/tenure, proof of assets, and evidence that sufficient resources can be applied to the contract.
It's the MoD, not the guy down the road who runs the post office and needs a spreadsheet app. You have to prove that you can deliver and that you'll still be around to fix it, n years down the line.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Officially a small business setaside, with all the box ticks that charlieg listed acting as boosters in the selection process. From what it sounds the company is a parasite that will effectively skim off a passthrough for administering as many of JSOPs coworkers as they end up hiring when taking over. The company in question was competing to administer the existing workforce after takeover not to provide a new one. 
And yeah it's not uncommon for positions where the DoD has contractors running onsite operations for it. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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I forgot to mention that we can't even get to the company web site from work...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I've already GOTTEN half a dozen headhunters contacting me letting me know that the position I currently hold is available.
That is bizarre 
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...and a completely unnecessary abuse of the English language.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Suck it, Maunder.
BTW, is CP hiring?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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With an attitude like that I'm almost certain either you won't be receiving a message from @chris-maunder saying that you've GOTTEN the job, or that you have successfully completed the interview post and GOTTEN an offer as Sean's minion and full time mankini cleaner. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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you forgot the italic tag.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: BTW, is CP hiring?
I couldn't imagine a Texan moving to Toronto (as winter's about to start) and liking it.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'm probably going to switch over from my typical cheery, sensitive demeanor, to someone that is more surly, short-tempered, and just plain rude.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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A few decades ago something similar happened during the commissioning of the (then) new Denver airport. They had a bid from a competent company to develop the software for the baggage handling system, but decided to give the contract to another, utterly inexperienced company to satisfy affirmative action requirements. Why not? Programming is just typing and any moron can do it, not so? 
The end result: The opening of the airport was severely delayed, by more than a year as far as I remember, and in the end they had to go back and appoint the competent company, who saw them coming and made them pay through their noses, because getting the baggage system to work was now a crisis. I love this story!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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This story raised a little bit my faith in the Universe!
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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Cornelius Henning wrote: I love this story!
I don't think it's exactly true. 
http://calleam.com/WTPF/wp-content/uploads/articles/DIABaggage.pdf[^]
The company hired to create the baggage system was BAE Systems - a huge multinational corporation of over 80,000 employees - not an affirmative action charity case.
The problems at DIA were way more than software and the ultimate "solution" was not hiring a competent software company - they reverted to a "manual" system that still runs today.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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