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It seems like every year we’re creeping closer and closer towards a codeless future, as technology evolves to favor low-code and no-code development.
SalesForce is an amazing product, however using it is like coding, it's just been abstracted so much that it doesn't resemble coding like a programmer would expect. Furthermore, having evaluated the product (and several others), while beautiful and powerful, it is so confusing, the updates no longer match the online documentation, and they put no effort into removing obsolete docs from their website, that I estimated for my friend at a non-profit, that she should plan on investing $20,000 in training (time and materials) for someone to get up to speed to do the basic stuff. Oh, and their import "wizard" is like a lobotomized Downs Syndrome child (apologies if that insults anyone.)
That said, their customer service was superb! 
Point being, you can abstract the coding all you want until you get something that looks like the interface in Minority Report, but it's still "coding."
The real thing to toot one's horn about is not that you've eliminated coding but you've made a user interface that is so intuitive and easy to use that it doesn't require documentation, tech support, or the equivalent of a hamburger flipper's year salary for training.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: The real thing to toot one's horn about is not that you've eliminated coding but you've made a user interface that is so intuitive and easy to use that it doesn't require documentation, tech support, or the equivalent of a hamburger flipper's year salary for training.
Yet someone still has to maintain it, and that requies coding, it can't be implemented in itself.
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I reserve the right to post stuff solely for the purpose of mockery. 
TTFN - Kent
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And if you had posted it as something other than news I wouldn't be making a sticky mess all over your shoes...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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 Fair enough, I'll just post it to the Lounge next time.
But mango zitango, this is a very slow news week. No one in the office? 
TTFN - Kent
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What a load.
I work with Salesforce all day, every day, and have been doing so for the past 4 years. The so-called "codeless" development is indeed codeless. Drag, drop, add a few items from listbox A over into listbox B, and done, now need to drag and drop another bit to consume what you just set up and... so on and so forth.
Point is, there is no business user who thinks in an appropriate enough manner to map out processes in this way. So you need a developer to do it. Because most developers are able to take business talk and map it to an instruction set. Whether that instruction set is code, or drag-and-drop boxes with lists of properties, is irrelevant. The mapping exercise still needs to be done, and most business folk don't have the aptitude to do so. In short: Codeless? Yes. Developerless? Not even close.
What you end up with in this scenario is a bunch of software developers dragging and dropping stuff on a web page all day long, and they hate it. 2015 Stackoverflow developer survey had Salesforce as the #1 most despised technology. Even more than VB.
If I owned a business, I would never use Salesforce because I would have to hire a developer who likely hates his/her job.
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Let me attempt to translate this:Quote: If you think of it like a pyramid, as no-code and low-code development capabilities expand, we’re adding more layers of app builders and designers at the bottom of the pyramid, but there is still a need for programmers at every level. That’s part of what makes working at Salesforce so exciting. Our platform has capabilities that the most technically advanced programmers can thrive in, as well as no-code capabilities for the least technical individuals.
How about: "Our product is so bloated we lost track of what we added to it."
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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We all know that reading is important. But we’re also busy. So we try to optimize by reading more quickly. And in this way, we miss the point of reading entirely. "I was able to go through War and Peace in 20 minutes. It’s about Russia."
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Bacon, you bet. 
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I didn't read this post. 
Marc
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I sped through it. Didn't get anything out of it for both of us!
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Kent Sharkey wrote: "I was able to go through War and Peace in 20 minutes. It’s about Russia."
Woody Allen 
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Today, the 17-year-old company is announcing its forth quantum chip, the 2000Q, doubling the number of qubits on its exiting 1000Q chip. I was never very good at that game. @!#?@!
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I probably should be nerdishly ashamed to say that this is great news to some of us 
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The fun part about all of this is, that they are just having electrons do the double shift job. There is nothing Quantum in there, just a powerful device, with a good software (I am unsure of doubting my doubt). Nothing else.
1) Keep the temperature low.
2) Use the best possible hardware.
3) Do not use JavaScript (finally, something I love about these machines) for programming.
4) Write programs, that require complex inputs and outputs, so you have no idea of what is going on.
Voila, you have a Quantum Computer there.
Besides, that Google statement on Quantum Computer is also so much rubbish. Would love to see what Microsoft has to offer; but until quite few years, decades perhaps, we won't even have a glimpse of Quantum Computers.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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You make it sound so easy!
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Microsoft cemented a major legal victory today, as a federal appeals court declined to hear the government’s appeal in a landmark cloud computing case. May or may not be good news IYHO (we report, you decide)
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So, the reprisals will be that there'll be no more US funding for IRA ter'r'rists, then?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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A type system is sound if it ensures what it’s designers intended it to ensure. This is much like programming: a program is correct if it does what it is supposed to do. Obscure edge-case is obscure
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Jesus wept. Do these people even know what computers are?
(Spoken as a java very-non-aficionado)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Do these people even know what computers are?
They're academicians, so their concept of a computer is some abstraction so abstracted that it no longer has any practical value except to get government grants to replace all the illegal ivory in their tower.
Marc
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That's much more sound thinking, sounded out in fewer words than those with unsound concepts in their empty vessels (which make more sound) managed to expound in many more.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The CEO and co-founder of Vivaldi, Jon von Tetzchner, called out Microsoft in a blog post today, saying that it's too hard for users to change their default browser on Windows 10. Put a stake in it?
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