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N_tro_P wrote: what does the government and their much bigger coin purse have access to?
This
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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How about this[^]?
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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The drones you have to worry about are those that aren't public knowledge. Things like mosquito drones that can infiltrate small domains, like homes, without being seen.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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N_tro_P wrote: Also, he flew it so high you could not even see it anymore. Sent it out a few miles too. The drone has a battery safety feature to "Fly home" if the battery power is getting to low. It then does a landing where you are (with your smart phone).
I think the drone has that follow feature too, so it could follow you on the highway or going down a mountain on skis.
Booooring. I want to fly myself, not watch a microcontroller do it.
Besides that, this is more than dangerous. If only a single motor fails, this thing will come down. The electronics will not help a bit and most owners of these toys would have the skill to bring it down safely with limited control. They will certainly not be able to do it when their toy is out of sight. One day someone will be hurt or even killed in an accident and then we are all going to have lots of fun because of such an idiot.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: One day someone will be hurt or even killed in an accident and then we are all going to have lots of fun because of such an idiot.
I suspect that serious legislation will be forthcoming limiting everybody's ability to fly RC as a result of these things.
The UEFA (Wendyball) Champions League Final on Saturday had to be played in a stadium with the roof closed to prevent drone attacks ... so security folks are already cautious. Government workers (well known for their sense of fun everywhere in the world) will probably overreact soon.
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This has already been happening for incidents where nothing really happened and nobody really could say, what exactly they saw. We do not need new laws, they just need to enforce the ones that we already have and apply them to those who don't quite get it.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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And if your government is anything like ours, you'll get new laws anyway ... 
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Yes, and those of us who think safety is 'ranting' and a obvious sign of not knowing anything about the matter will convince them that this is the way to go.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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N_tro_P wrote: Then you misunderstand how it works.
Then I was just lucky when I went out flying yesterday? 
N_tro_P wrote: Also, if I spend more than $100 on a toy, I am very glad to hear it protects itself from my stupidity.
Not to such a degree. I see enough of them every week who use their electronics as an excuse not to learn how to fly.
N_tro_P wrote: That is a total fallacy.
No, it's not. For one thing, never trust a software that you have not misprogrammed yourself. Usually the software is not smart enough to react correctly to something unusual. It could, for example, pick up a vibration over the gyro, try to compensate and make the copter almost uncontrollable.
N_tro_P wrote: Why do you assume a programmed system can not fly safely if a motor fails but a hobbyist can???
Because I have already manually landed a helicopter with a failed swashplate servo. The electronics would simply have tried to use the servo to compensate and simply not have gotten it that the servo was frozen. It's a matter of split seconds and either you can save the model or you can't.
N_tro_P wrote: It seems if there was any mechanical failure, this would become totally chaotic but a system could easily detect a motor failure and safely land it.
No. I don't know a single system that would detect anything at all. besides that, depending on the number of motors and their alignment, not all multicopters can recover from a motor failure. In that case you can only try to minimize the damage. To people, to other's property and perhaps even to the model.
N_tro_P wrote: Actually, that is sort of the point of the safety controls. Honestly, it seems like you really don't know much about drones and are just ranting.
Yes, sure. That's it. So you think it's very smart to have a thing of considerable weight and engine power flying around autonomously, blind and without the owner's control? And it's ok that the owners don't care about controlling anything and use these safety features for the big show?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: N_tro_P wrote: Actually, that is sort of the point of the safety controls. Honestly, it seems like you really don't know much about drones and are just ranting.
Yes, sure. That's it. So you think it's very smart to have a thing of considerable weight and engine power flying around autonomously, blind and without the owner's control? And it's ok that the owners don't care about controlling anything and use these safety features for the big show?
Sounds like something a government entity would do.   
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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Luckily not. Our buerocrats came with the idea that you have to see an instructor, take lessons and then get a license. Up to now they did not get anything like this through yet.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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N_tro_P wrote: You are hillarious. FYI, I worked in the aerospace industry. You are being quite arrogant and naive. Planes that haul people today can fly themselves, yet you seem to think a toy should behave more erratic
As a janitor or as a door guard? Being a troll certainly just is your hobby.
And please don't complain about being harassed by a troll again, you two would be perfect roommates.
Go climb a tree.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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And which part of 'f*** off' did you not understand? I must have overlooked the memo where they announced that every self important dickhead can now come and blurp out phrases in such a tone. Just get lost before you succeed in making me angry.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
modified 6-Jun-17 14:15pm.
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Impressive!
Expensive, but impressive!
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Expensive?
That's only because you're thinking as a private person.
A saved soldier is worth so much more.
I saw one of those once, they are pretty quiet but also quite autonomous.
You don't steer them, you just tell them what you want to see. CDP would be so dissapointed.
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Everything sold to the military is either overpriced, or defective ... I think it's a law of nature. 
overpriced military items - Google Search[^]
But I also suspect corruption and price gouging most of the time. 
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OriginalGriff wrote: But I also suspect corruption and price gouging most of the time.
Speaking as a person who has worked in that environment, I can verify that claim. I've seen so much government waste. I was on a development team that wrote a very sophisticated piece of software that tracked, identified, and shipped replacement parts for the military using condition based maintenance. Millions was spent and got shelved due to political affiliations.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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That's why they got that "public" in films... that way anyone saying it happens will be taken as a fool
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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