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Before some weeks/months I asked wheter it is ok to shutdown an unsecurded Network.
A lot of respones told me, I'm wrong to do it...
This Network came up imediatelly again after I "shutdown" it.
Seriously: Is it really wrong to shut it down, and this time in a way that they can not bring it back easely?
I mean I take care that my children are safe (as good as possible) to Access the inet in a controlled way, but all my care is worthless if some stupids in the neighborhood publishes a unsecured Network (unsecured means in this case also the user/Password are the factory Settings) and so e.g. my son can do with this Access whatever he likes...?
Thank you for your suggestions in advance.
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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1) Buy a throwaway phone.
2) Buy a throwaway car.
3) Park outside his house and use his network to download info on joining ISIS.
4) Drive away and wait for his computer equipment to be confiscated ... once you have thrown away the evidence.
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Can you make it a bit more easy for me?
Does it means Overall: Close it is ok? I know first I Need to check it with ISIS, but that is the easy part 
Thanks 
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1) Buy a throwaway phone.
I have one of this. Just tried it. 20 meters at the Moment,
2) Buy a throwaway car.
I have one of this. 0 Meters at the Moment, this f*****g Benz is too heavy.
3) Park outside his house and use his network to download info on joining ISIS.
The net is in my house, no needing of a parking lot.
4) Drive away and wait for his computer equipment to be confiscated ... once you have thrown away the evidence.
I'm waiting ....
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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You almost certainly can't - legally - close it. In the UK that's a specific offence under the Computer Misuse Act, and can earn you jail time. Switzerland is probably the same, if not more severe about such things.
I'd suggest talking to him and asking nicely if he would mind securing it because of the possible problems with kids (and the repercussions if someone does start downloading stuff they shouldn't via his connection). He may be reasonable.
If you aren't sure where he lives, the WiFi Analyser Android app gives you a signal strength meter you can use to "home in" on the physical location.
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Yes, I think also in Swiss it is not legal to do it.
But.. I'm not completely sure about the legal situation. What I mean to know is: If someone private operates a network publicly, he is responsible for it.
Quote: I'd suggest talking to him
To which of the 50 possible Targets?
Thanks for comments/hints.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: To which of the 50 possible Targets?
If you are in a multi-dwelling building, apartment or someplace where there are common mail boxes. Print out the network name and password and put it up where all can see. It will sort itself out rather quickly.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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If your kids are smart enough to switch to a neighbours all-access Wifi probably smart enough (or give them a little time) to bypass your controls - that is if the intention is there.
0x01AA wrote: I mean I take care that my children are safe (as good as possible) to Access the inet in a controlled way
China takes the very same care for it's entire population.
Sad.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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I do not think it is necessary to present links here that I would not recommend for 15 year old children.
Comparison of restrictions what China is doing with the citizens and what I try to secure my children is something very strange!
I have maybe the possibility to do the best for my children, but very sorry, I have no influence to chinese gov.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: Comparison of restrictions what China is doing with the citizens and what I try to secure my children is something very strange!
Yes, China's leaders don't trust strangers, whereas you don't trust your own children.
15 years old: likely savvy enough to get around a nanny net filtering if he really wants to - sometimes the reason may be just because you are treating him like a juvenile.
You're a father with kids well old enough to reason with. You need to grow up and talk to them.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Quote: Not your job
You gave me the top Input. Indead it is not my Job, there is an instance to Report, which I will inform
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Even if it's wide open, you're still accessing a network you're not authorized to subsequently modify for your own purposes, no matter how well-intended those might be. That's not even a gray area if you ask me.
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If the kids are using a Windows computer, log in as administrator and assign static IP's to your router. Don't give them the admin password. Use something besides 192.168.1.XXX for LAN.
We always use static IP's, for security purposes.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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But how I can stop them to Access the unsecured net? I mean also by the mobiles? I think I have no Chance, unless I stop the unsecure net...
Grateful for all helpful hints
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Update the HOSTS file with the addresses on the unsecured network, probably 192.168.1.n ...and don't forget to change your local addresses to something else first via DHCP control on your router/hub.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yes, everything done. But the children (not only mine ... as far as I know  ) can Access this unsecured net by phone.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: and so e.g. my son can do with this Access whatever he likes...?
Always makes me laugh 
We never had this problem with the thing we called "libraries" 
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Care to guess who just repartitioned and formatted the wrong disk in the WookieTab?
Oh .... bother ....
Care to guess which of my devices isn't backed up (because AOMEI doesn't support eMMC disks)? 
Downloading Win10 ... 
And then Visual Studio, and Paintshop Pro X9, and LibreOffice, and ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Care to guess who just repartitioned and formatted the wrong disk
Is this the IT version of Cluedo?
Was it Griff, with a shell command, in the living room?
Nope.
Alright, then was it Griff, with WookieTab, in the living room?
We have a winner!
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Very close, but it was A.N.Idiot in MyOffice, with the Partition Manager who murdered the WookieTab.
I've gone right off Cluedo ...
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Did it give a nice warning before you confirmed the action, like FDISK does? 
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Oh yes.
It even explains exactly what it is going to do, and requires you to say "OK" and then separately find and press the "Apply" button before it does anything.
Then you look at the result, and realise the wrong disk now has nothing at all on it... 
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Are you going to label your new C drive as "DON'T PICK ME"?
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