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I wouldn't eat those things either. My gf and I are at the point where even the thought of going out to dinner, even "good" restaurants (to begin with, something that isn't a chain) results in a "run away" reaction. The crowds, the noise, the awful music, the crappy service, the fact that I can cook better than most restaurant chefs, and I know where my ingredients come from and I use quality ingredients (just about everything is locally grown / raised -- I know many of the farmers personally) makes "an evening out" quite unpalatable.
Then again, living out in the boonies 1) provides that opportunity and 2) there aren't any decent restaurants within 100 miles of us anyways.
And on the gripping hand, I also realize I live in the top tiers (at least when it comes to food) of first world luxury.
Marc
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Haven't has a Mote In God's Eye reference in ages! 
Have to agree, I was forced to go out and eat in a "restaurant" - in fact a pub / bar that has decided to go all "Gastro" - a couple of weeks ago, and was disappointed with the food. All I had was a burger and chips - but the house speciality burger, home made, with home made fries. And it was crap. The bun came from Tesco's "extremely cheap" range, the meat was tasteless, textureless, and overdone, the fries were soggy, the spicy tomato relish tasted like tinned tomato with dried basil in it, etc. And I could have cooked it quicker, better , and for a quarter the price...
The good news was I didn't have the lamb chops or the Malaysian fish curry, both of which were much, much worse.
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Shame, I have had some excellent food in Wales.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Haven't has a Mote In God's Eye reference in ages!
I was thinking that too.  A classic!
Yeah, I forgot to mention cost. There's actually a quite good Japanese restaurant in Great Barrington, MA, Bizen - sorry for the FB link, they don't have a website! - and we can easily spend $80 to $100 for dinner (and we don't drink, so that doesn't include booze) which is the equivalent of 4 or 5 dinners with fresh caught fish from the local market! (meaning, not sushi from the local market -- Bizen does offer various amazing non-sushi fish selections, and their sushi is amazing, even the veggie sushi) They are really quite good though, and the main sushi chef, Michael (the old fellow in one of the pictures) often comes and chats with us.
Meh - I'm rambling and procrastinating trying something out in F#.
Marc
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OriginalGriff wrote: Haven't has a Mote In God's Eye reference in ages!
On the one hand it's an obscure reference. On the other hand Marc isn't the only fen here who loves an obscure reference that will sail over the mundanes heads. And on the gripping hand, your recall seems to be a bit limited, since I've used it at least four[^] times[^] in[^] the[^] last two years.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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And I've got a PDF of Oath of Fealty sitting here, waiting. But I kinda feel more like rereading Dream Park....which I don't have a PDF of, so I'll have to dig out the paperback.
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Oath of Fealty was a good book - I love the "Think of it as evolution in action" comment. 
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I agree, I am rarely impressed by a restaurant (and I live in France), so eating out is often a pizza, or something we eat just to not have to wash up, rather than for flavour.
There is a Michelin starred place near by whose starters are very good though, but their main course is confused and over the top. Too much stuff with different flavours piled on top of each other.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Too much stuff with different flavours piled on top of each other.
I find that to be the case in high end restaurants here too. Interestingly, it's also why I don't like those sushi rolls with combinations of fish. Each fish has a unique flavor and texture, and the everything gets blended together into a mess when you roll three or more fish together.
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Never had maki with more then one fish, but it does sound odd.
However I love california maki, with the mayo and crispy onions!
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Hah living in Singapore is a foodies heaven, it may not be as fresh as your food but the chefs really know their job. Even the hawker markets produce some outstanding tucker to the point that some locals do not have kitchens.
As for chain or franchise restaurants, haven't eaten in one for decades.
Reducing the rotund is impossible here.
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RAH
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"actually, it's f***ing sh*t with some red sauce" 1:15+ LMFAO now. 
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I remember the pizza I had in the US. Dear oh god, a lake of fatty melted crap cheese on greasy salty dough with something in between. It was dire.
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If ever you want to eat mass-market pizza again then don't look up analog (or analogue) cheese. It's one of my brother-in-laws main markets. He manages tens of thousands of hectares of palm oil plantations, and is also a consultant in that field. Unfortunately, there are no cows in that field. He knows nothing about cows in his business, nothing at all.
You can see where this is going, can't you.
Your average shop bought pizza knows less about cows than my brother-in-law.
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Palm oil! 
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'Fraid so - a large amount of it, anyway.
It is an interesting exercise in your local supermarket to look at weasel-wording on a frozen pizza box to see how they suggest it may be something vaguely like cheese, but actually isn't. Interesting, but not necessarily edifying.
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Look at the junk they gave them - an experiment designed to fail and make their video.
I've been to Italy a number of times - staying for weeks, in one case. Their food was not particularly tasty by any measure. Their idea of pizza (real pizza - everything's an extra topping on flattish bread) is pathetic. Be it Resturante or Trattoria, nothing impressive was the general rule
But look what they served them. A "Meatlover's" piece of crap from an nauseating chain store. I must presume the rest of the food was equally hand-picked to displease. The guy was right - I wouldn't feed that stuff to a dog, either. But it's not pizza - just a round thing shat out of a flow-through oven. I will gladly enjoy my NYC version: heaven's sauce-and-cheese anointed blessing. Food for the people!
Just your typical Euro-Arrogance about food. Wherever you go you can find sh*t-on-a-shingle. Only fools that desperately want to believe it proves anything.
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The exception proves the rule.
I had good Italian in the US, once.
I had good Italian in Italy, many times.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: The exception proves the rule.
This statement, although used often enough, is absolutely nonsensical. Its use should be criminalized.
As for your experience - based upon where you live - why am I not surprised?
The point is, wherever you go you find amazingly good place to eat - and lots of other ones.
I look for juicy and savory as primary attributes of Italian cooking.
Seasoned tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese, melted together, will make nearly anything delicious.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Seasoned tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese
Unless the tomato and mozzarella is from the US.
I got s jar of anchovies from italy a few months back, a big jar, about 700 grams (2lbs). Even THEY were better than any other anchovy I have ever had.
If you can't get the ingredients, you can't make the food!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Unless the tomato and mozzarella is from the US.
Your being in a country that eats elephanting snails - you apparently wouldn't know good food if you even actually ate it. Only the label matters to you. Like that dying language they belched by the striking baguette wavers. A logo instead of a life; Form without substance? Perhaps.
As I said - pathetic Euro Arrogance. Swooning in their own mystique from a past long gone. Desperately pointing to a history they really had no part in - as it's history. If there were great ones . . . they're long dead.
Another round of this? No. To tiresome.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Your being in a country that eats elephanting snails
You live in a country that eats insects.
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That remark made my day!
Cheers!
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I didn't know till i saw some dried grubs in a supermarket in CA once.
Odd, is it a Mexican speciality? They were with the dried chillies.
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Drown anything in garlic and butter and it tastes good
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