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As has been amply pointed out, people do use code libs whose structure is based on the instantiation of design patterns whether they know it or not.

My question was more about "do you use patterns," but I get and agree with your point.

Once one has an understanding of the more common patterns, one starts to see them everywhere; kind of like buying a make and model of car you've never owned before and then suddenly seeing them on the road everywhere. Smile | :)

Thank you to those who responded. You have been helpful and have convinced me it's time to reacquaint myself with the subject. I also appreciate the links.

Cheers,
Mike Fidler

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MikeTheFid wrote:
I have referred to it and used patterns on only a few occasions since then. It never really caught on with me and became an automatic go-to while I'm at the design stage.

Because the reality is that most of those patterns have little usage in the vast mess that is implementation.

Not to mention of course that singleton, which is the only one used a lot, tends to be used incorrectly a lot as well. So that didn't help much.

MikeTheFid wrote:
Do you use design patterns on a regular basis?

In the generic sense, not the book, yes.

MikeTheFid wrote:
If you use patterns regularly, do you have a source or sources of new patterns?

My head. And not as rigorously as GoF defines it.

I looked at several of the follow on books to the GoF and found that most were really struggling to find patterns. That along with how seldom I had seen (even then) most of the patterns in the GoF didn't really bode well. Further experience seems to have supported my determination that although the idea was valid it just wasn't prevalent enough to attempt to normalize it.

jschell wrote:
Not to mention of course that singleton, which is the only one used a lot

The decorator is used throughout the .NET framework (streams), as well as the command-pattern, factories (DbFactory, ThreadFactory), strategy-patterns, object-managers..

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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The decorator is used throughout the .NET framework (streams),

Yes I stand corrected. It is used in other frameworks and languages as well. Perhaps percentage wise used more correctly as well.

Hi All,
I want to create software for education like wordshark and numbershark but not sure what language to use java or C#
Thanks for your help
Ch

Whichever you're better at. If neither, then either will do.

I have recently started exploring DDD and planning to use it. I am looking for some clarifications for which I have created a sample problem and designed a solution using DDD followed by some questions. Please go through it and revert should you need further details.

Problem Statement: Architecture a manufacturing station for Vehicles which allows assembling of different parts and creating a vehicle.

Architecture Style: Domain Driven Design (DDD)

Domain terms and relationships
- Manufacturing Station may have 0…* vehicles
- Vehicle may be a Car/Truck etc.
- Vehicle may have Engine, Transmission, Wheels, Music Player, Rear View Camera, etc
- Engine could be of Petrol/Diesel
- Transmission could be Auto or Manual
- Wheel may have Tube or Tubeless Tyre
- There may be millions of parameters within a vehicle such as Speed, RPM, Tyre Pressure.
- A group of parameter belong to a certain component (Engine, Transmission, Wheels, etc).

Hierarchical representation of System
- Manufacturing Station
o Vehicles
 Car/Truck
• Engine (E)
o Petrol/Diesel
• Transmission (T)
o Auto/Manual
• Wheels (W)
o Tube/Tubeless
• Parameters (Could range upto millions)
o Speed - E
o RPM - E
o Coolant - E
o Tyre Pressure - W
o Audio Level
o RearCameraOn
o DoorLocked

DDD Solution

Bounded Contexts (Identified)
Station
Vehicle
Engine
Transmission
Wheels

Bounded Context Details

Bounded Context – Station
Aggregate Root
o Station
 Slots : List<slot>
Entities
o Slot
o Vehicle : Car/Truck
Value Objects
Repositories
o StationRepository
Services
o SlotService
Events
o VehicleAllocatedToSlot
o VehicleDeallocatedFromSlot

Bounded Context – Vehicle
Aggregate Root
o Vehicle : Car/Truck - How to manage inheritance and new vehicle types such as Bus
 Parameters: List<parameter>
Entities
o Registration
o Chassis
Value Objects
o Manufacturer
o Model
o Parameter
 Name
 Value
 Type
 Default Value
 Unit
o Audio System
Repositories
o VehicleRepository
Services
o AssemblingService
Events
o VehicleCreated
o VehicleDeleted
o VehicleRegistered
o VehicleDeregistered
o AudioSystemAdded
o AudioSystemRemoved

Bounded Context – Engine
Aggregate Root
o Engine
 Parameters: List<parameter>
Entities
o ElectronicControllingUnit
Value Objects
o Gas Pump
o Valve
o Filter
o Fan
o Parameter
 Name
 Value
 Type
 Default Value
 Unit
Repositories
o EngineRepository
Services
Events
o EngineCreated
o EngineRemoved
o FilterAdded
o FilterRemoved
o FilterReplaced
o GasPumpAdded
o GasPumpRemoved
o GasPumpReplaced
o FanAdded

o FanRemoved
o FanReplaced

Questions:

DRY is violated. We could see Parameter defined in almost all the services.
o Is it advisable to have a separate service for Parameters? In that case, does a component(Engine Or Wheel) keep a list of parameter id within itself OR each parameter hold a parent Id?
How does a client create a Car with Engine,Transmission and 4 wheels in a single call?
How does the relationship between different components achieved? Fo e.g how does a specific engine know to which car/truck it belongs to? How can we reconstruct a car/truck?
How to manage inheritance depth using DDD?
o Vehicle -> Car -> Ford/Toyota?
How to manage deep level composition using DDD? How do we flatten the aggregates?
o Station -> Car -> Engine -> Fan -> Parameter(Fan Sped) -> value
 Station.Car.Engine.Fan.Speed  How to retrieve Speed(Parameter) value in other Bounded context

Thanks in advance!

Praveen Raghuvanshi wrote:
I have recently started exploring DDD ...Architecture Style: Domain Driven Design (DDD)

Had to look that up and I can say is...versus what other idiom exactly?

If you are not designing for the domain, then you are not solving the domain problem. Seems like there is no alternative there.

So any process that reaches a solution of the domain would be DDD. Anything that doesn't would be, by definition, a failure.

Praveen Raghuvanshi wrote:
Domain terms and relationships

Hard to read (you could format it) and seems likely (guessing on a quick look) that you have an entity model. If so then you should start with the entities themselves first, before adding details (attributes.) Then add major attributes to clarify functional needs. And likely skip non-significant attributes at all for the model (they are implementation details.)

Praveen Raghuvanshi wrote:
o FilterAdded
o FilterRemoved
o FilterReplaced

Domain modeling should start with the actual/real domain.

Above doesn't represent a real domain. When you build a car from scratch you don't remove nor replace the filter. If you service a car you might replace it, but that is not part of building the car from scratch.

Modeling the entire real world eco-system of manufacturing to servicing is too large for a single model and would not be approached that way.

You're modelling a "Bill of Materials" for a vehicle's "dealer invoice".

Not exactly a "vehicle manufacturing station". For that, you need more "functionality".

"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal

Can you share some thoughts on modelling this problem?

You have not stated (or determined) what "problem" you are trying to model / solve.

Stating that one wants to build a "car manufacturing station" is not a proper "problem definition" and will lead to nada.

"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal

I created an Azure SQL server VM and am unable to connect to it with SSMS.

I followed this article: https://forums.asp.net/post/edit/6168801
Now when I go to my local machine cmd prompt and type:

ping trainingsqldev25.eastus.cloudapp.azure.com

I can see the ping resolve the DNS name to the correct IP address but the requests still time out.

Make sure you're using the latest version of SSMS:
Download SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs[^]

"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer

Installed the latest version of SSMS and used my host name as follows:

trainingsqldev25.eastus.cloudapp.azure.com, 1433

I still can't connect. Now, everything I find on the internet points to the same article:

Provision a SQL Server Virtual Machine | Microsoft Docs[^]

Here I recreated my SQL VM several times and still the same results.

I will note that ping is not a good way to test connectivity.

Much better to use 'telnet' and provide the domain and port. Success is with a blank screen and failure is when a error message it reported.

Hi All,
I am preparing for Java Architect and not able to understand the diagrams used for software architecture and high level design diagrams..

You need to start learning Software Engineering, and in such a course you can learn those diagrams. Typically you would be needed to learn how a user would be using the application, how the data flows, and how application works. So there is a diagram for all of those, which you must know. It would be best, if you could join a local institute where they train and teach you, online and self-paced would still be confusing.

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UML would be a good preparation Smile | :)

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As already pointed out learning UML is a good starting Point for a object-oriented language like Java.

I can recommend the book "Applying UML and Patterns: An Introduction to Object-Oriented Analysis and Design and Iterative Development" by Craig Larman [^] to learn about how to actually apply modelling in real scenarios.

Not sure how to answer that.

If you are an experienced developer then at least some of the UML (presumably what you are referring to) should make sense. Like class diagrams and sequence diagrams.

Some of the others like package diagrams are ignorable. Only time I ever used that was in a tool specifically intended to be a full UML code generation and IDE (and it did not succeed.)

If you are doing this for a class, and not a job, you will not have the necessary experience to get the point of most of them. So you are going to just need to memorize and hope. Even so the class diagram should at least be generally obvious.

For me the only ones I use, as a developer and architect, are class, sequence, use case and rarely state. Keeping in mind of course that an Architect or Design document is not defined only by the diagrams but also requires a lot of verbiage to explain and tie the parts together.

I'm not much of an Architect so I need some advise.

We have a home-grown very badly designed queue that buffers data for a legacy system. The data is sent to the queue and stored in a sql table then the host service takes the top item and attempts to send it on. Do not assume the receiving legacy systems are .NET or even SOA... I may need to drop this stuff to an XML file. Smile | :)

Fun right? On success, the queued item is archived.

I have the opportunity to rewrite this. I want this buffer to handle any type of request (not a rigid data structure) and we need to report on the meta-data in the queue. So, I basically want to store the message or serialized object in an XML field and keep meta data in a separate table to meet the reporting requirements.

I've been looking for a design pattern (factory?) that I can follow or an example project on how to do this. Please make a recommendation.

I'm also aware of msmq. I doubt the decision-makers would allow me to go this direction but this is my one opportunity to get their buy-in. Can someone help me by telling me if msmq is a good solution for this and, if so, point out an article as to why? I assume msmq can only interact with web/wcf services. Is that true?

Joel Palmer wrote:
I'm also aware of msmq

Be aware that msmq has a hard limit on the size of messages. Slightly less than 2 meg if I remember. You can break it up and send it but that introduces more complications, again as I remember, error handling becomes difficult in those cases. And is impossible for some routing strategies.

Additionally routing for msmq is built in which means it attempts to find its own route. And you must be aware of this as it can have significant impacts if firewalls are in place in production and the correct ports are not opened (seemingly everywhere.)

Joel Palmer wrote:
The data is sent to the queue and stored in a sql table then the host service takes the top item and attempts to send it on

Why is that a problem? It means that back ups are already handled. How are you going to handle backups if you put the data into the file system?

Joel Palmer wrote:
I have the opportunity to rewrite this. I want this buffer to handle any type of reques

You didn't specify any other actual request in your problem description. Don't generalize without real cases. It complicates things and at least some times makes actual usage with other cases more difficult rather than easier. If you do have actual cases then you would use that to first determine your requirements.

That said a message queue, of some sort, is already a general solution. They also support persistence (ones I have seen do) in either the file system or databases. You would need to look for a guaranteed delivery solution for your messages. That is something that must be specifically configured for any queue.

Wrap your "payload" in your "meta-data", and add it to a System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentQueue<t> hosted in a service-type application.

"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal

Hello,
by rewriting a MFC App
In .NET I want to declare huge bulk data, which should be placed in the exe.

Because I see, with the resource techniques the access to data implemented with resource-techniques are only possible with streams,
I want to prepare the data, e.g. by declaring long arrays.

Have you a tip for me?

Thank You
Erhy