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megaadam wrote: Woold you forgive me, for a buck or two?
Just send me a large suitcase full of used, unmarked, USD 100 bills and we'll say no more about it. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
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I heard Mattel Dad that this Hasbro upon us another conundrum with no Ideal solution.
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Thought for which country? Day is about to change here.
Awesome Topic and thoughts BTW 
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I bet you've got Abacha[^] these puns up your sleeve.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I'm taking part in Movember this year. This is my fourth time. For those that haven't heard of Movember, it's a campaign to raise funds and awareness for men's health. For example prostate cancer, testicular cancer and male suicide rates.
Each year thousands of men (such as myself) grow a moustache during the month of November and raise funds for this amazing campaign.
I'd be extremely grateful for any dontations. This is a cause that is very close to my heart. Please see my Movember page to make a dontation Movember United Kingdom - Home[^]
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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It's a good campaign and while I don't (read: can't due to work) take part in it, I support it. My grandfather developed prostate cancer when he got older.
Seriously, if you don't... go get checked out. Prostate isn't just a finger check anymore, there is a blood test available! So that is no longer a valid excuse.
Male mental health in general and suicide specifically, so many of us are raised with the "what it means to be a man" mentality and never ask for help.
In addition to those three important items I'd honestly love to see testosterone level checking added as well. I avoided getting checked for over a year because of the stigma attached to it. Once I did and got help, things are now improving. 
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Raising awareness is a popular notion these days but never fixed a darn thing.
AutoNation here where I live is even trying to sell cars on the pretense that if you buy a car at their dealship, then you will be buy from a company that has a great concern for breast cancer and you get a little pink plate badge. That's despicable.
Here we have an annual march for suicide awareness, yet the local numbers are steady to climbing.
I don't know who came up with this notion of "do something for awareness" as it's relatively new and feels like were being given something to distract us while hard cold reality marches on. When I was 10 and my mom died of cancer, that night they gave me toast.
Medical Science is making headway as well as other means but we can't really help.
The best thing people can do is pray for all involved.
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Ron Anders wrote: The best thing people can do is pray for all involved.
Praying never fixed anything ever. Raising funds and awareness gets money to causes where it can be spent on those causes. By reading this post I have already made you aware of the cause and its objectives. What you now do with that information is entirely up to you.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Any movement that gets men to grow facial hair is a good thing.
Jeremy Falcon
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I wish the downvote option was still here.
Facial hair 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yeah, because having enough testosterone to grow facial hair is soooooooo horrible. Not. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: having enough testosterone to grow facial hair is soooooooo horrible.
It's not the having part that is soooooo horrible. It's the lack of self-respect allowing it to grow.
Actually, if you keep it trimmed it looks ok. But you said the more the merrier and too many people don't maintain their facial hair and it repulses me.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I reckon it depends on the reason it's being done then. If it's to be a sloth 'tis bad. Society will never value that and we're better off for it. If it's to "go natural" then I don't see it as bad. We should be proud of our bodies and stop trying to live up to some fake ideal just so people that don't really like us can pretend to like us. With ideals that only occupy our mind space when we have nothing else to do with our lives - as a whole / species I mean - because humanity finally reached a point we can sit on our duff and survive. So ya know, don't judge a book by its cover is all I'm saying.
That being said, I do shave mine around the neck line... but not every day. But call me old fashioned, but I think we should judge people by their deeds and actions rather than facial hair though. But that's just me.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: But that's just me.
If you think it's just you, then you missed the point of my post. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I think you missed the point of mine. But thanks for playing.
Jeremy Falcon
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I thought what you posted was crystal clear but now your response makes me think I did indeed miss it. Oh well. I'm over it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Hmm. I've found that my desire to wear a moustache/beard has grown as my hair line has receded.
It's somehow ironic that I keep my facial hair trimmed to 6 mm(*), and what little hair I have left on my head is buzzed as short as the blades allow (~ 1-2mm).
(*) My beard is blond/gray and fairly light, so keeping it short looks better.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: Hmm. I've found that my desire to wear a moustache/beard has grown as my hair line has receded.
Ha. I can totally understand this.
Jeremy Falcon
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Its a personal choice.
I worked at a food manufacturing facility that had a clean shave policy; if you don't shave, don't come in to work. To enter the plant, we had to wear hair nets.
Then, the policy changed to allow facial hair, but you then had to wear a beard bag.
I chose to stop shaving a wear a beard bag; my opinion was - why not two hair nets instead of one?
That was 24 years ago... I've kept my beard and mustache trimmed, but I like having it.
My wife has requested I keep it... she says I look to young without it.
So, like most things, it's your choice; I don't get to decide other hair styling and they don't get to decide mine.
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best be careful there, big razor is watching!
Note: their usual 'action' is to cut you... but only once because nowadays their blades never last long.
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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Good point, in the world of consumerism... it's impossible to be a whole person without a product. All praise be to the mighty razor.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's been Movember for me since my mid-teens.
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Hi All,
Just went through a series of hoops and jumps to get an expenses paid for a proffesional membership.
Use the correct form but it needs to signed and dated by my boss, so that gets printed out, a second form needed to be filled in so print and sign, this then needs to be copied to accounts, admin and on a total of 4, now thinking that in the spirit of the mother earth I scanned the signed copy as a PDF and emailed it. PDF's won't do it needs to be a physical copy (?) printed and each person looked at it with a general "Oh thanks" looked at opens a database page clicks a tick box and then files it in the shredder...  . I am almost afraid to claim something else as it may require a forest...
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Going paperless is a farce. A kin to world peace.
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