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I agree, and you raise a good point about other switches that suppress code generation. I suspect the best compromise is to call attention to them in the documentation of LNK1181; other linkage editor errors go into such detail about possible causes. Since linkage editor errors can be difficult to solve, all the help that can be mustered would be appreciated by all concerned.
Would you be willing to comment on the issue that I opened, so that Microsoft hears from someone besides me in this regard? If so, the URL is in my original message.
David A. Gray
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David A. Gray wrote: Would you be willing to comment on the issue that I opened, so that Microsoft hears from someone besides me in this regard?
Unfortunately I cannot comment on your open issue. Back when I became a Microsoft employee I signed at least a dozen mountains of documents that limit my ability to comment and interact on public forums regarding Microsoft and certain Microsoft products. I've probably crossed or walked that line already within the last few years.
Trust me, both the Visual Studio team and c++ compiler team has probably already seen your open issue. Give him some time to respond.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Thank you for disclosing your connection. Since my immediate problem is resolved, my objective in opening the issue is to pay it forward by suggesting an improvement that I suspect will benefit some future puzzled programmer. Hence, I have no time limit, and I suspected that they might already have seen it, or at least a report thereof.
David A. Gray
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Randor wrote: Visual Studio team and c++ compiler team
Randor wrote: him
Small "team"
#SupportHeForShe
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Hi,
I was referring to Colin Robertson[^] who is the owner of the documentation repository.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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ah
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Why would there be an option to not produce the .obj file? That is, after all, the point of compilation! I guess there might be some reason you don't want the .obj file overwritten, but I can't think of any good reason at the moment.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Why would there be an option to not produce the .obj file?
Most C/C++ compilers support executing *only* the preprocessor stage before the abstract syntax tree and code generation stages. I typically use it when I need to see how the preprocessor expands my macros. The Microsoft compiler will generate .i files with all of the preprocessor results... macros expanded and included in the file. Both GCC and Clang use the -E switch for accomplishing the same thing.
Here is a simple example of why a software developer might want to only run the preprocessor:
#if DLEVEL > 5
#define SIGNAL 1
#if STACKUSE == 1
#define STACK 200
#else
#define STACK 100
#endif
#else
#define SIGNAL 0
#if STACKUSE == 1
#define STACK 100
#else
#define STACK 50
#endif
#endif
#if DLEVEL == 0
#define STACK 0
#elif DLEVEL == 1
#define STACK 100
#elif DLEVEL > 5
#define STACK 50;
#else
#define STACK 200
#endif
What is the value of STACK? Are you sure? You can expand and debug C macros by running only the preprocessor stage. Can be really useful for complex C macros.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Randor wrote: What is the value of STACK? Are you sure? You can expand and debug C macros by running only the preprocessor stage. Can be really useful for complex C macros
That is precisely the reason I used the /P switch, as it has been in every case when I did so. The only reason that it created a problem this time is that the build environment left it enabled for the Win32 Release configuration.
David A. Gray
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Today, I went in search of a freestanding color picker that can generate RGB color codes. My search yielded two excellent choices. Pixeur, available at https://pixeur.en.uptodown.com/windows/download, is a small standard Windows program that essentially mimics the color pickers in Microsoft Office (and the one that is hidden in Windows 10 unless you are editing a high contrast theme. RoseLT Color Picker is a Modern (UWP) app, available in the English-language South African department of the Microsoft Store, at https://www.microsoft.com/en-za/p/roselt-color-picker/9nq8c70flp0r, is a bit more fancy, and fills the whole screen to accommodate its many output options and its display of a list of the standard named colors. I like both, and I'm not sure which of the two I'll use most.
What I know for certain is that both, or ones like them, deserve a spot in the toolkit of every serious software developer or graphic artist, for use when the color pickers in your favorite tool are out of reach.
David A. Gray
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Quote: What I know for certain..... deserve a spot in the toolkit of every serious software developer or graphic artist
What I know for certain:
a.) software developer (even the serious one) have usually no clue what sRGB exactly means and how much worth (more not worth) a pick from his uncalibrated Screen means.
b.) a graphic Artist should know what sRGB means and a Color Picker tool can be usefulle on his calibrated Screen, but he does have more better Tools 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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0x01AA wrote: a.) software developer (even the serious one) have usually no clue what sRGB exactly means and how much worth (more not worth) a pick from his uncalibrated Screen means.
I maintain that a serious software developer must have a working knowledge of sRGB values, knows the limitations of his uncalibrated screen, and just might actually keep his screen calibrated if he does much UI work.
0x01AA wrote: a graphic Artist should know what sRGB means and a Color Picker tool can be usefulle on his calibrated Screen, but he does have more better Tools
I didn't say that the graphic artist didn't have better tools at his disposal, only that they might be out of reach at the moment. For example if he's writing a recommendation, e. g., in Outlook or Word, he might not want to fire up Photoshop just so he can use its color picker. Or, suppose that he's working at home on his personal laptop that doesn't have PS installed on it.
David A. Gray
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Sorry if I commented a bit/to much exaggerated. But this topic always leads to misunderstandings. All the best.
[Edit]Wrote the above, just while analyzing 1878 Pantone C Colors 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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NP. Have a great day!
David A. Gray
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In case you are interesting in technical deep discussions concerning colorimetrics, I will be very happy and available. It Looks like I'm becoming more and more a Dinosaurier in this field, after the big chemicals gave up to investigate more in this field  
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass for now. I have too many other irons in the fire.
David A. Gray
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That's ok. Quote: Forge the iron while it is hot
That I learned before about 50 years from my father... a black Smith and Art Smith
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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I wonder how many people know that black smiths exist today, though in far fewer numbers, than they did in the time of my great-grandfather.
David A. Gray
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Now, my horse still depend on this art... this art to place/prepare an iron exactly and especially exactly nailing through the hoof at the very correct place
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Lol, from ColorPicker to horse hoofs
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That is precisely why I know there are still practicing blacksmiths. I have a female friend who had a brother (since deceased) who shod horses for a living, and made a very good living from it.
David A. Gray
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I met one at the Stuhr Museum in Nebraska. I was there for a BSA merit badge thing, and that place is so freaking cool!
Stuhr Museum of the Prairie Pioneer : Home[^]
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: I met one at the Stuhr Museum in Nebraska. I was there for a BSA merit badge thing, and that place is so freaking cool!
Was that for one of the Citizenship merit badges? As an Eagle, I earned all of them, and learned some interesting things for each of them.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
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I just noticed that I neglected to acknowledge your offer to discuss colorization in greater depth. For now, I'll pass; although the topic has some appeal, I have specific interests, such as, e. g., selecting a contrasting color from the color wheel.
David A. Gray
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I use ColorPix - https://colorpix.en.softonic.com/ -- no installer, very unobtrusive, and easy to use, though I would have to say it's only easy to use when you're not having to move the mouse to an exact pixel, even though there's a zoom mode.
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Many moons ago (before .NET) I wrote one that I still use often...generates rgb and hex codes or translates between the two. Does anyone write their own tools these days?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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