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I remember my spectrum 128 and my first pentium 75 MHz. It was not easy to use them, but it often was less frustrant than nowadays.
I do recognise that one can do tons of stuff more than before, but IMO things are somehow losing "quality".
M.D.V. 
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David Crow wrote: Remember when computers used to be easy to use?
Yeah, but they would've been trivial to pwn (yeah, I used that word). OTOH, they weren't connected to the internet back then. Well, not the majority of them. It's been a battle between convenience and security ever since.
Also...it depends how far back you're thinking when you say "easy to use". Some would argue, were they ever? 
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Here's something I can't find the right keywords for googling:
A PC with a six-core processor would be called Hexacore. With an eight-core processor it would be called Octacore.
What would it be called with 32 cores?
I found what the basic multiples of 10 are: hecto, kilo, mega and so forth but I don't know how to put them together to make 32.
Can anyone help with this?
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Duotrigesimacore: Base-32 Conversion Tool[^]
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Brilliant! Thank you.
I might have to come up with a different naming scheme for my PC's however, because that one might be a little long for a network name.
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It's a bit of a mouthful, isn't it? 
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In the soapbox I might have had a witty reply to that one.
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And XXX II Core is going to give entirely the wrong impression!
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Ha! Good one.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: I might have to come up with a different naming scheme for my PC's however,
32 cores, eh? How about BFG 9000 ?
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God in Heaven! What do you plan to do with that beast?
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Nah, the question is what won't I be able to do with it! I plan to find out....
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Nah, the question is what won't I be able to do with it!
Indeed!
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Well, in order to program a Total Perspective Vortex, you also need a piece of fairy cake.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Nah, the question is what won't I be able to do with it! I plan to find out....
... run multi-threaded software that's not NUMA aware (aka almost everything except enterprise level servers) and that needs significant amounts of memory IO without significant degradations in performance, worst case is slower than on the 16 core equivalent that doesn't have the 2 CPU dies gimped due to not having direct ram access.
Conclusions: Not All Cores Are Made Equal - The AMD Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core and 2950X 16-Core Review
YMMV, but unless you know your main workload will play nice, I'd recommend sticking with the 16 core 2950X, or upgrading all the way to Epyc which doesn't have the NUMA related problems because all cores are directly connected to RAM.
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What can't you do with it? IO for one. Computing is probably another.
You'd probably be better off with eight 4x PCs.
IO didn't scale. Neither did RAM bandwidth. And there's a certain amount of scalability when adding processors. It is possible to even end up with a slower system than if it had fewer CPUs.
You will, however, end up with something to boast about
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Holy crap! 
$1800 and "Cooling device not included". What do you cool it with, a domestic freezer?
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You only live once, my friend. I'm hoping that an all-in-one liquid cooler will keep it happy.
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250W just for the processor is some serious heat to get rid off - my first house was heated by a 1KW bar fire ... mind you, in the depths of winter we moved into the bedroom!
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Yes I agree, but it's only 250W when it's running at max effort.
Most of the time it will probably be much less.
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Many years ago, we had a server with a DEC Alpha CPU that we could use for frying the bacon for our lunch.
The first demo prototypes of the Alpha machines came with a three phase power supply. Before the commercial release they managed to cut down the power requirement so much that a single-phase power supply was sufficient.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
32 cores, eh? How about BFG 9000 ?
I would just call it "ShowOff"... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Duotrigesimacore
Rolls right off the tongue..........NOT! 
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For some reason it reminds me of "vitameatavegamin" from I Love Lucy many, many years ago!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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