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What do you mean, he endangers himself? I thought that 'No means no'. Equal rights in action, I would say. 
A gentleman, of course, would 'voluntarily' forget both the words 'equal' and 'rights', but I never really got why anyone would do that. That's why I'm probably not a gentleman and actually happy about it.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: Equal rights
What are you talking about?! This is a married couple! 
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Explaining why I'm not only no gentleman, but also never seriously thought of getting married.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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...I know how they feel[^]
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Good idea. In consequence, you can gladly take up my special offer to post any further reactions for the special price of only € 4.95 per post. One upvote is included, but limited to only one for every of your posts.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Awesome.
Not that I'm a gamer (anymore), but I keep hearing about how the gaming landscape has changed and how it's all about nickel-and-diming these days. And I want no part of that.
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I always wondered what would happen if I entered a negative number.
Yes, yes, yes, I know, but unicorns are unicorns.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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What I mean with this cryptic question:
Do you treat the first part of software versioning (i.e. "2.4") like a decimal number or do you simply "count up"?
If treated as decimal, it would mean, that "2.4" is equal to "2.40" (like a decimal number is equal), if you count up, not.
Decimal version flow:
2.1 followed by hotfix 2.11, 2.12, etc
Next minor release after 2.1 can be 2.2 (= 2.20)
Count up:
2.1 followed by 2.2, ... ... 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11 and so on
I hope I could explain, what I mean.
How do software versions evolve in your minds?
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According to Visual Studio, they are IP addresses: 2.168.0.1 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Count up, definitely. The dot is a separator not a decimal point.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Count up...
In cases that my code is an extension for 3rd party I use 4 parts - 2 for the version of the targeted 3rd part and 2 for mine... but still count up in mine...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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MS tells do this: <major version>.<minor version>.<build number>.<revision> and I do it. I do not consider "." as decimal.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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With more than two levels it becomes hard to argue for the dot being a decimal point.
Unless you are British and old enough to long back to the shillings.
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Member 7989122 wrote: With more than two levels it becomes hard to argue for the dot being a decimal point.
Now you are just assuming all dots to be decimal. May be there is a dot who feels like 3. You cannot call it dot or point or decimal. That is so rude.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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It was never a decimal point in the days of shillings, it was a separator the same as in software versions.
Obvious when you think it through, definition of decimal is "relating to or denoting a system of numbers and arithmetic based on the number ten, tenth parts, and powers of ten", there were 20 shillings in a pound and 12 pence in a shilling so no multiples of ten.
And even in the days of shillings the full stop was rarely used in writing down currency (at least in my experience), for instance two pounds, five shillings and six pence would normally be written "£2 5/6"
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I miss the good old days. Shillings were so nice to have around.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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PeteTheDiver wrote: full stop was rarely used
I don't think I ever recall a dot being used as a pounds/shillings/pence separator - it was always the forward slash.
My first-ever role as a contractor (1983) involved making some changes to an accounting system. I was a COBOL developer but had included in my CV that I also knew BASIC and 6502 assembly language. The recruiter idiot had decided I was a great match for a client needing an IBM assembler programmer. (After all, how different could IBM mainframe and 6502 be?) So it was a steep learning curve, to put it mildly. What was worse was that the system predated 1971 and handled all currency in pounds/shillings/pence. At decimalisation they'd kept the three fields and stored the number of (new) pence by dividing by 12, putting the result in the shillings, and the remainder in the pence. (e.g. 50p was represented as 4/2). Thankfully it was only a six-month contract but I think that's when the grey hair started...
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For the major number you count up - version 9 is followed by 10 followed by 11. 11 is not version 1 with a hotfix. Why would you have different semantics for the major and the minor version number?
Most tools / standards are prepared for handling up to 4 levels, so 2.1 followed by a hotfix is 2.1.1 rather than 2.11. (I have been annoyed at MS even since 2.11, which really was 2.1.1.) You will read 2.11 as "two eleven", not as "two one one", so it should have the semantics of "eleven" as well.
I am even more annoyed by developers who make a version 5.6.14 which replaces the file format of 5.6.13 with a new one. Format or interface changes should bump the major version number. Extensions and additions should bump the minor version number (or possibly the major, if there are other significant changes), but it should be 100% backwards compatible. Micro versions should be bug fixes only, no functional extensions or changes.
Version numbers are for the users! The developers use build numbers/timestamps. Ask yourself what information the typical user would hope to get from the version number. The main rule of major = changes, minor = additions, micro = fixes and improvements is simple and easy to understand. It is gaining popularity, at least in the principles stated - having the developers and system builders live by the principles is a lot harder, but it even the cat herd is slowly learning to behave
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I just wanted to collect your oppinions, because I heard both versions in the past.
Some kind of reality check, not more
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In Android development the software version is an integer. Google Play uses this integer to determine when an upgrade is available - if the version number on Google Play is larger than on the device Android will download and install the new version.
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Not a number.
I remember when the D language was still being tested by a few people and Walter asked us whether or not it would be confusing to go from 0.99 to 0.100 -- nope, not confusing.
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Definitely count up for each part. These are not decimal numbers.
My version numbers are always major.minor.build.
Major versions are reserved for either complete rewrites or major feature packs. Minor versions are for feature changes and bug fix packs. The build number is rather obvious but also doubles as a hotfix ID if needed.
Every time the major version changes, the minor version and build numbers get reset to 0.
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Every time the major version changes, the minor version and build numbers get reset to 0.
Build number to zero, really?
Minor to zero, yes of course, but the build number is (in our case) a unique, ever-growing id right from the build server, which can not be manipulated and currently is in the mid-thousands
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Build managers frequently count the number of executions of a given build project, assigning each build a number from a dense series local to that project. If this is what you refer to as the build number, and you for each major release define a new build project, zeroing the build number comes automatically.
The global build number carries very litte information about your project. Any other build project, unrelated to yours, will modify it. The difference between two global build numbers does not tell if they span one or a dozen builds of your project. The project local number tells if the older build was the last before this one, three versions back, ten versions back.
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