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RossMW wrote: alas, VS2019 Winforms and .net Core 3 isnt fully here yet....
And just as it gets "there", MS will abandon it and leave us hanging, yet again... Wash, rinse, repeat.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Yes, I've downloaded VS2019 and have the absolute latest preview -- just installed the update yesterday.
I'm an Early Adopter. 
Actually, I wanted to try out .NET Core 3.x and even though it had been released you couldn't use it in 2017 so I downloaded 2019.
I hate the new Project Selection window and the main interface is following that minimalist crap.
And, there is intellisense that places odd little light-up comments all through your code.
Plus, a number of old Project Templates are gone.
But, as it is with all companies, it is what you get. So I may as well get used to it now, I guess.
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Nope.
I downloaded 2017, and some earlier ones. As it turns out, however, I've not much use for them.
Since I'll not go beyond Win7, anyway, before going full Linux, I'd more likely be exploring possibilities in that world.
As for my paycheck? They hired me for C++ but it's moved to full web apps. With the exception of a recent exception (site access secured by a local .exe and machine registration), I've hardly done anything with a real language for quite a while.
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One of my coworkers said he'd volunteer as a test dummy. If he has anything interesting to say in the next day or so I'll relay it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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Nope, just getting cozy with VS2017
I do all my own stunts, but never intentionally!
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Yes. Downloaded and installed last night, and used it all day today.
The new "start window" thing's a tad annoying, but I didn't spend a huge amount of time looking at the old "start page" anyway.
Top-level extension menus (eg: ReSharper) have been moved under a single "Extensions" item, which was a bit jarring at first. But that's probably a good excuse to learn more of the keyboard shortcuts. 
ReSharper 2019 is still in "EAP", so it occasionally pops up it's "unhandled exception" notification. But that happens with every EAP version.
GhostDoc 2019 is still in beta, and doesn't provide a beta for the community edition, so that's not installed yet.
Otherwise, no complaints. Feels like a slightly more polished turd version of VS2017. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Pfff... this question is like so 3 weeks ago....
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So where is the actual download for it? Or am I stuck with the stupid installer that goes out and gets bits and pieces?
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Nope. I basically only use Rider these days, and I haven't looked back.
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When I first joined Code Project I loved getting the newsletter with the witty comments under the headings.
I still enjoy these.
Over all these years my favourite place on CP is the lounge.
It is such a great place to visit and be in.
I rarely go anywhere else here, except to download some code or example.
I don't respond very often, but I do enjoy and love it here in the lounge.
I often wonder what the people look like in real life.
Some offer this but most don't.
I can understand why.
But one of the best things about CP is that I will enjoy and be entertained by people that I wouldn't like in real life.
OK that is a bit of an assumption. Maybe true or not, but that is what I feel sometimes.
E.G.
I miss Dalek Dave. I always loved his posts.
But i doubt that I would have liked him in real life.
This is what makes the lounge a special place.
Anyone else feel the same?
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Most of us look like Bob.
Except me - I look just like my avatar.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Haha
No one looks like Bob.
However for some reason i have always accepted your avatar as how you look.
So you are an exception.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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OriginalGriff wrote: Most of us look like Bob.
Except me - I look just like my avatar.
ahh, I was long baffled by where you got that picture of me.
now I get it,... twins! bro gwych.
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Lounge? Have you ever been to the QA?
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QA doesn't present the same interesting dilemma.
In QA it's 100% elephanting certain that you wouldn't like the person IRL! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
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I don't like some of them in the virtual world either, so at least they are consistent. 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Johnny J. wrote: In QA it's 100% elephanting certain that you wouldn't like the person IRL!
Not necessarily; they could be clueless programmers, but decent people.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: clueless programmers
Exactly! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Only a fool will ask more than a hundred wise men can answer 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Yes i have a couple of times.
Just looking at it.
I have never asked a question ever.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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grralph1 wrote: Over all these years my favourite place on CP is the lounge.
It is such a great place to visit and be in.
I rarely go anywhere else here, except to download some code or example.
perhaps you could ask for code / examples right here in the lounge, then really not need to go anywhere else?
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Naughty boy! 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Oh no that is not allowed.
Chris's kid sister would bar me for ever.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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I have met DD in real life, so you don't have to. 
veni bibi saltavi
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