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"Bless sales, they have no brains but the gift of gab..."
Well, after some 20+ years in the field I'm pretty much convinced that most (better) sales are savvy people, at least in managing their own lives.
They don't have a very complex job, they mostly get rewarded very well for selling some stuff, better than the ones building that stuff in the first place, even if the sales person might not even know the tiniest thing about the product they're selling (sometimes).
They can go out and have dinners with people, play some tennis, visit parties,... and it's all part of working hours, since you're relationship-building.
They grow a really nice (social) network which makes them more and more valuable for future projects/employers, which is the counterpart of the engineer that needs to keep on top of new technologies, investing lots of personal time, just to stay relevant.
Sales get the nicer cars, the better paychecks, the nicer office desk (and office chicks Smile | :) ), most of the kudos when a project is delivered successfully...
Have seen this happening like ALL of the times in my previous jobs.
Who is the smarter guy?
Me working and learning like crazy, conceiving from scratch the products that companies are selling, for a decent income, but not one that'll ever make me wealthy, or the sales guy, living a pretty relaxed and social life, getting a nice base salary, generous commission and gains 'expertise and relevancy' without consciously investing time or effort in it?

I actually knew a sales guy which was very good at selling (himself).
So my boss hired the guy as the one who was going to generate lots of sales for our company.
After two years, after first being promoted to sales manager (of 2 junior sales), he was let go.
He didn't sell one(!!!) license of the product, nothing at all.
But in those two years, he made more money than me and most of my fellow engineers would make in 10 years of hard work.
I got to hear that two weeks after that he already found another victim where he exactly did the same thing.
In the meantime he can add those former employers onto his CV, since he did work there, building a nice resume, making his profile even more appealing to other companies. And since they'll only know that he's full of sh*t after a year or two/three, he will have made some easy money, expanded his network and CV making it easier to reel in some even bigger fish, increasing his rate.

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