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Nelek1-Aug-20 1:02

Nelek

1-Aug-20 1:02

Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I'm a pretty mermaid. YOU SEEN MY PICTURE, DARE DENY IT.

I don't dare to deny it, but I would like to delete it from my nightmares... Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Daniel Pfeffer1-Aug-20 9:29

Daniel Pfeffer

1-Aug-20 9:29

Eddy Vluggen wrote:
AND IF THERE ANY GODS LEFT TO CHALLENGE US, BISMALLAH, THEY BETTER LEARN QUICKLY.

OT: is this a quote from somewhere? I'd be interested in knowing the source.

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.

Eddy Vluggen1-Aug-20 11:56

Eddy Vluggen

1-Aug-20 11:56

Not a quote; I just have weird dreams. Currently reading "Small Gods" from Pratchett.

Bastard Programmer from Hell Suspicious | :suss:

If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

Member 103346102-Aug-20 20:05

Member 10334610

2-Aug-20 20:05

My first bosses advice was "Write code like it will be maintained by a psychopath that knows where you live"

BryanFazekas3-Aug-20 1:16

BryanFazekas

3-Aug-20 1:16

ditto -- I was told the same exact quote

agolddog3-Aug-20 4:37

agolddog

3-Aug-20 4:37

Disagree with your assertion. For the most part, people who write obtuse software which isn't fault-tolerant think their code is fine.

Herp-derp, I'll just hard-code this value, won't attempt to handle any exceptions, etc, etc, etc.

Generally, it's not that these people even understand how bad their code/designs are. Yes, there are occasions where somebody understands that (sometimes with "this feels wrong, couldn't figure out the right way, here's what I'm trying to do"-type comments), but that's the exception to the rule.

Thus, most people will think their code is just fine, because it kinda-sorta works given the exact right conditions.

honey the codewitch3-Aug-20 4:47

honey the codewitch

3-Aug-20 4:47

I know my code is not fine for others. For starters, my methods are too long.

My post is tongue in cheek.

Real programmers use butterflies

Matt McGuire3-Aug-20 5:21

Matt McGuire

3-Aug-20 5:21

I kid you not, I worked on someone else c# code base that was trying to run dependence injection at every level, everything was an interface, even if there was one concrete class implementing the interface. I mapped one API call through 14 layers of calls to get to the root code that was hard coded to return "True" (not a bool, but a string).

It would take me hours to find where the call's implantation wound up. The project solution consisted of 60+ DLL projects, some of which had no code and was only a stub out for an interface implementing another interface referenced in another project.

every function had a try/catch with a logger that did not log the error or any variables, just the function name where the error occurred and a time stamp, nothing else. so when you have say 10 functions called "Update" in each of the 60+ projects, which one did it crash on, and why?

tried to map it out, gave up after a week. Hair pulling time.

honey the codewitch3-Aug-20 7:03

honey the codewitch

3-Aug-20 7:03

sounds frustrating. kind of makes me glad i left the field

Real programmers use butterflies

Matt McGuire5-Aug-20 3:57

Matt McGuire

5-Aug-20 3:57

I ended up moving on to a different company. apparently I was eventually going to be the main dev for that code base, so the dev that wrote it could work on higher level ideas, and that's when I knew I had to move on.

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OriginalGriff31-Jul-20 4:33

OriginalGriff

31-Jul-20 4:33

Does a fishing competition have strings attached?

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Jacquers31-Jul-20 4:48

Jacquers

31-Jul-20 4:48

That's a reel good joke Wink | ;)

jeron131-Jul-20 4:48

jeron1

31-Jul-20 4:48

It muskie reely difficult to salmon these thoughts so often.

"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Daniel Pfeffer31-Jul-20 5:10

Daniel Pfeffer

31-Jul-20 5:10

That's a good line; it reeled me in. Smile | :)

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.

littleGreenDude31-Jul-20 5:37

littleGreenDude

31-Jul-20 5:37

I'm hooked.

Remember, no matter where you go... there you are.

DerekT-P31-Jul-20 6:34

DerekT-P

31-Jul-20 6:34

You're taking the piscis, surely?

Mike Hankey31-Jul-20 6:35

Mike Hankey

31-Jul-20 6:35

I 'm not takng the bait!

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W∴ Balboos, GHB31-Jul-20 7:41

W∴ Balboos, GHB

31-Jul-20 7:41

Whatever floats your boat - none of us will sinker your praise on this barb.

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Marc Clifton31-Jul-20 3:45

Marc Clifton

31-Jul-20 3:45

The code I’m still ashamed of[^]

Quote:
Nothing that we were doing was illegal. As the youngest developer on my team, I was making good money for my age. And in the end, I understood that the real purpose of the site was to push a particular drug. So, I chalked this tactic up to “marketing.”

The client was extremely pleased with the site. So much so that their rep invited me and the entire team out to a fancy steak dinner.

The day of the dinner, shortly before leaving the office, a colleague emailed me a link to a news report online. It was about a young girl who had taken the drug I’d built the website for.

She had killed herself.

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Nelek31-Jul-20 3:58

Nelek

31-Jul-20 3:58

Then weapon manufacturers should be REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYYY ashamed.

M.D.V.

Marc Clifton31-Jul-20 4:01

Marc Clifton

31-Jul-20 4:01

Nelek wrote:
Then weapon manufacturers should be REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYYY ashamed.

Yeah, well, there at least you know you're doing something that's intended to kill.

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W∴ Balboos, GHB31-Jul-20 7:51

W∴ Balboos, GHB

31-Jul-20 7:51

I offer you a piece of logic for your consideration:

Suppose there were no weapons - sounds like some sort of panacea?

Well, if you're the big guy, things are great. If you're the little guy he uses for his own version of Dwarf Tossing - you're pretty much screwed.

There's an old saying and it's not without some important truth:
"It was god who created man but Colonel Colt[^] made them equal."

Don't think I'm downplaying the daily unspeakable horrors that weapons have caused and are causing as I write and as you read.

Weapons just change the paradigm: the biggest guy isn't going to be the ruler by mere accident of birth. Now the guy with the biggest gun, or with the friends with more and bigger guns, . . ., oh sh*t - we're right back to hear and now.

No weapons? That's not a choice. Not since Cain killed Abel.

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ZurdoDev31-Jul-20 9:20

ZurdoDev

31-Jul-20 9:20

W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
some sort of panacea

I think there's a pill you can take for that.

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

Amarnath S31-Jul-20 5:15

Amarnath S

31-Jul-20 5:15

Not a fatal one, but this is something which one of my fellow students did in our grad school.

In the final project work, he had hard-coded the inputs inside the code, so that whatever inputs the user gave on the screen, the code would always provide the same output with minor variations, so that it looked different each time.

And now, he is in a very senior position in a large company.