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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
While is is obvious that data storage cannot grow without limit, we do not know the minimum energy required for storing a bit.
The minimum energy required to store a bit isn't relevant for this article.

Original author wrote:
In a nutshell, Landauer proposed that destroying a bit of information requires a comparable dissipation of energy.
Changing information costs energy, like it does when ripping out a page of your diary.

Here he implies information has mass. It doesn't; all the matter in the universe, it's heat and motion, are data and not convertible into either energy not mass. The entire universes' mass, it's warmth, acceleration, direction, and basic element is data (and yes, I need random data, and masses of it for encryption).

But information is neither energy, nor does it contain mass.

Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
In summary, it is much too early to make such predictions.
I'm not making a prediction; saying right now that this is bullshit. Hard drives don't become heavier over time; the magnetic field doesn't change the amount of atoms. Writing in a paper diary adds only the weight of the ink. While ripping out a page of my diary costs energy, it's not related to the information on that page. I might tear out a page with bullshit drawings, or one with a lot of chicken recipes, it will cost the same energy, regardless of information.

Basic computing also laughs at the idea; data is not information - data becomes that once we have a use for it. The basic location of each sub-atomic particle in the entire observable universe is (semi-random) data. Landauer acts as if both the same, and if the cost of modifying is related to its mass. Wait, not there yet; let me burn your diary. Does more information give of more heat? Or does only the mass influence that?

Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
Note that the energy requirements have decreased drastically over the last 70 years. HDDs, for example, are much faster, have higher capacities, and use less power that they did in the past.
And your old HD's are heavier, I bet.
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