Click here to Skip to main content
15,887,862 members

Welcome to the Lounge

   

For discussing anything related to a software developer's life but is not for programming questions. Got a programming question?

The Lounge is rated Safe For Work. If you're about to post something inappropriate for a shared office environment, then don't post it. No ads, no abuse, and no programming questions. Trolling, (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed.

 
GeneralRe: Clean Install Joys Pin
dandy729-Oct-20 4:14
dandy729-Oct-20 4:14 
GeneralPostman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
trønderen8-Oct-20 12:25
trønderen8-Oct-20 12:25 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
PIEBALDconsult8-Oct-20 13:30
mvePIEBALDconsult8-Oct-20 13:30 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
vasilisa118-Oct-20 19:14
vasilisa118-Oct-20 19:14 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
Richard Andrew x648-Oct-20 13:37
professionalRichard Andrew x648-Oct-20 13:37 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
trønderen8-Oct-20 23:41
trønderen8-Oct-20 23:41 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
dandy729-Oct-20 4:03
dandy729-Oct-20 4:03 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
trønderen9-Oct-20 6:01
trønderen9-Oct-20 6:01 
dandy72 wrote:
Yeah - having to swerve into the opposite lane to go around those who can't keep up with traffic is a great way to cause said accidents.
I have been driving a moped tricycle for a while, same 45 km/h max speed and as wide as the Paxster. Even though the speed limit is 50 km/h, in the city cars rarely go at the speed limit. The trike had no problem keeping up with the car traffic. Now and then I was of course overtaken, not by car drivers wanting to drive at 48-50 rather than 45 km/h, but by those coming up like an arrow from behind, whooshing past me at 60-70 km/h, out of sight within a few seconds. Those driving like that know to look for conflicts with other cars (or they wouldn't be driving long). 45 km/h "enough" to not be a hindrance for cars within the city. I know from practical experience.

If you insist on driving faster, there is an L7e version of the Paxster as well, with a 60 km/h speed limit. But arguing for higher speed to improve safety and prevent people from ending up in wheelchairs will not be supported by those analyzing traffic problems.

In Norway, bikes have for the last 30-40 years been allowed to use the sidewalks. It has lead to a lot of conflicts and some serious accidents, and traffic planners in many other countries think we are crazy. When electric bikes arrived, they too were allowed to race down the sidewalks, yelling to pedestrians to get out of their way. We got these electric kick-scooters, and they were classified as bikes with the right to use the sidewalk. There is no longer room for pedestrians there...

For a couple kilometers on my way to work, there are separate biking lanes on both sides of the road. Yet, way more than half of the bikers choose the sidewalk, yelling angrily if I don't get out of their way fast enough. If I stop and just point to the biking lane, they get really mad!

Cities have these pesky buildings sitting in the way, limiting the maximum width of the road. There simply isn't room for separate lanes for pedestrians, pedal bikes, el-bikes / el-scooters, mopeds and cars, in both directions. We must co-exist, and learn to adapt to each other. We cannot always demand to have our full rights to drive as if we were alone on the road. The you can drive at 50 km/h is small. The time that you are behind a 45 km/h moped is small. The combination, where the moped ahead of you is what prevents you from your car-given right to drive at 50, and not that car ahead of the moped, is very rare in city traffic.

Separating different kinds of traffic is a good idea, if space and other resources allow. But demanding a separate lane for vehicles because they can drive at "only" 90% of the speed limit would be crazy. And equally crazy putting pedal bikers at 7-15 km/hour in the same lane as 45 km/h mopeds.
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
dandy729-Oct-20 9:08
dandy729-Oct-20 9:08 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
OriginalGriff8-Oct-20 19:53
mveOriginalGriff8-Oct-20 19:53 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
Sander Rossel8-Oct-20 21:55
professionalSander Rossel8-Oct-20 21:55 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
jsc428-Oct-20 22:26
professionaljsc428-Oct-20 22:26 
GeneralRe: Postman Pat car - what to name it? Pin
Gerry Schmitz9-Oct-20 3:07
mveGerry Schmitz9-Oct-20 3:07 
Generalhow to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
Southmountain8-Oct-20 9:23
Southmountain8-Oct-20 9:23 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
jeron18-Oct-20 9:25
jeron18-Oct-20 9:25 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
raddevus8-Oct-20 9:39
mvaraddevus8-Oct-20 9:39 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
jeron18-Oct-20 9:44
jeron18-Oct-20 9:44 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
Southmountain8-Oct-20 9:49
Southmountain8-Oct-20 9:49 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
jeron18-Oct-20 9:53
jeron18-Oct-20 9:53 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
Southmountain8-Oct-20 11:52
Southmountain8-Oct-20 11:52 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
OriginalGriff8-Oct-20 9:45
mveOriginalGriff8-Oct-20 9:45 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
PIEBALDconsult8-Oct-20 9:54
mvePIEBALDconsult8-Oct-20 9:54 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
RickZeeland8-Oct-20 9:59
mveRickZeeland8-Oct-20 9:59 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
Southmountain8-Oct-20 11:55
Southmountain8-Oct-20 11:55 
GeneralRe: how to read these 5.25' floppy disks? Pin
trønderen8-Oct-20 11:04
trønderen8-Oct-20 11:04 

General General    News News    Suggestion Suggestion    Question Question    Bug Bug    Answer Answer    Joke Joke    Praise Praise    Rant Rant    Admin Admin   

Use Ctrl+Left/Right to switch messages, Ctrl+Up/Down to switch threads, Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right to switch pages.